I know everyone on CP hates Cassel.....

[Three7s]

So, after listening to Petro's weekly PMS rant about people unfairly bashing Cassel, I started wondering. What would it take for people to actually.....LIKE Cassel? I don't know if there's a thread on this or not because I'm way too lazy to go through all of the Cassel bashing threads.

FWIW, I don't think Cassel is all that great either, but he can, at least, complete a pass once in awhile, unlike guys like Campbell.

What I think would sway my feelings toward him is to do what he did against the Broncos, only when it REALLY matters. I know it would go against our offensive philosophy, but teams are stacking the box on us so much that it looks like it has to be done.......so how about you guys?

[Brianfo]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Actually, I did this in a thread earlier this week before anyone else even noticed it and were instead rushing to blame Richardson.

"Cassel has to be benched after taking all of these sacks. You can throw the ball away you stupid mother****er. He also totally missed Hagan blitzing. Richardson picked up the DE, Lilja double-teamed Williams, Moeaki released into the route and Cassel didn’t see any of it. Even then, he still had almost three seconds to get rid of that ball. He had Bowe wide open on the slant. Wide open. He just had to throw it where Bowe would have been and it’s 28-7 instead of 35-0. It was funny that they pulled Richardson after that play, even though it was the QB’s fault. Total sacred cow situation. O’Failaghan was terrible in relief, BTW."

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=236837

Get you're facts straight. At least it makes you're argument more believeable. Does it piss you off that "noone notices." I laugh at you now and in person. You ate too many paint chips as a child.

[Norman Einstein]

Originally Posted by milkman

Charlie Weis runs essentially the same offense that Todd Haley does/did.

Sure doesn't look like the same plays we were using last year, but don't let the video record stifle your ignorance.

Haley used the left over play book from Gailey with modifications.

I'm not a professional scout, but if I can see that what the F is wrong with you?

This is where you get your dumbass back.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Brianfo

Get you're facts straight. At least it makes you're argument more believeable. Does it piss you off that "noone notices." I laugh at you now and in person. You ate too many paint chips as a child.

This retort literally makes no sense. My facts could not be straighter. Watch the ****ing play, dumbass.

[CrazyHorse]

Hey look everybody, the haters have another one on the hook. Looks like another night (and a couple of days likely) of the same crap retold once again. The same arguements about the same plays about the same person. Surely they will make some ground this time.

Like it makes a difference.

Ah yes, marijuanna does that to people.

Find some women fellas, jesus.


Disclaimer:
FTR, I dont think he's the answer either. But just spend my time on other things besides hating on people wishing them dead because they aren't the football player I would like to have.

[Brianfo]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This retort literally makes no sense. My facts could not be straighter. Watch the ****ing play, dumbass.

It is so obvious that Matt Cassel ****ed you're girlfriend in high school. You have been butt sore about him all year. You have been completely wrong. Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hamas=Fail.


Green is not a color that you wear very well!!

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

Your lower intellect is really shining through there mm.

Who you gonna call to replace Cassel?

What you can't seem to get through that thick skull of yours is that many of us, myself included, are not calling for his repacement at this very minute.

I've said more than once that Croyle is not a solution.

We are simply discussing his shortcomings and why he needs to be replaced at the end of the season.

Just in case you haven't noticed the team is 5-4, better now than in the past two years. In the first year of a new offense. A passing game that is called from the sidelines and a few exceptionally egregious dropped passes by the "best WR" we have on the team.

For those of you that feel that Cassel is the only problem here really need to get a grip on the game.

And no one has said he's the only problem.
He is, however, the most important problem.

How are you going to write off his salary when you throw him out during the season?

His salary after this season is not guaranteed, so we don't have to write off his salary.
He gets cut before his roster bonus comes due, he's not owed a damn thing.

[qoute]It sounds like you, as well as many others, are ready to throw away this season, the first decent first half of a season in 5 years.

You tell me how you are going to handle this, then I'll send to Arrowhead in your name and they can call you for further advice on what to do to make the franchise better.[/quote]

No one is ready to throw away this season.
We want to see thsi team build on this season, which includes not only finding a better QB, but also improving the O-Line further, improving the receiver's, the NT position and finding another pass rusher.

After which, we can hopefully add depth.

You think I'm happy with the lack of production, but you are just as full of shit as ever. I want more, but at the moment we don't have what we need. You can either support what we do have or be that fan that gives up and starts rooting for the other team in the Chiefs game every week. That seems to be your type.

Again, I am discussing what I see as a need.

I don't give a rat's ass that you aren't interested in discussing it.

And that is essentially what all of your posts amount to.
Cassel is our QB, so why talk about his shortcomings?

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Brianfo

It is so obvious that Matt Cassel ****ed you're girlfriend in high school. You have been butt sore about him all year. You have been completely wrong. Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hamas=Fail.


Green is not a color that you wear very well!!

You add exactly nothing to this place. Go away.

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

Your lower intellect is really shining through there mm.

Who you gonna call to replace Cassel?

Just in case you haven't noticed the team is 5-4, better now than in the past two years. In the first year of a new offense. A passing game that is called from the sidelines and a few exceptionally egregious dropped passes by the "best WR" we have on the team.

For those of you that feel that Cassel is the only problem here really need to get a grip on the game.

How are you going to write off his salary when you throw him out during the season?

It sounds like you, as well as many others, are ready to throw away this season, the first decent first half of a season in 5 years.

You tell me how you are going to handle this, then I'll send to Arrowhead in your name and they can call you for further advice on what to do to make the franchise better.

You think I'm happy with the lack of production, but you are just as full of shit as ever. I want more, but at the moment we don't have what we need. You can either support what we do have or be that fan that gives up and starts rooting for the other team in the Chiefs game every week. That seems to be your type.

I read a lot here, but WTF did you Say ????

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

I didn't say he was a top 10 QB. The NFL ranking system has him at #9.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...0/seasontype/2

Here's one that will make you feel better about yourself.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/playerrankings

What?

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

5-4 record and #9 on the top 10 list of QB's in the league. Shitty? I suggest that your opinion falls short of being accurate.

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

Then I agree, the people are talking on emotions and not in reality.

In reality Cassel is in the top 10. In reality the Chiefs are better now than they have been in at least the last 2 years and maybe as many as 5 years.

I do disagree with the 2nd year of the rebuild. Cassel is in his second year with the Chiefs but he is working with his third offensive coordinator. Gailey, Haley and now Weis.

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

You would lose that bet, but don't let facts deter you.

Quarterback Rating Leaders - Qualified
RK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
1 Michael Vick, QB PHI 153 96 62.7 1350 8.82 88 11 0 15 115.1 225
2 David Garrard, QB JAC 180 125 69.4 1440 8.00 52 15 7 17 104.9 180
3 Philip Rivers, QB SD 329 215 65.4 2944 8.95 59 19 8 22 102.9 327
4 Tom Brady, QB NE 304 196 64.5 2176 7.16 65 17 4 13 98.8 242
5 Vince Young, QB TEN 140 81 57.9 1090 7.79 71 10 3 12 97.6 136
6 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 158 99 62.7 1304 8.25 53 9 4 12 97.1 261
7 Kyle Orton, QB DEN 350 217 62.0 2806 8.02 71 16 5 21 96.4 312
8 Tony Romo, QB DAL 213 148 69.5 1605 7.54 69 11 7 7 94.9 268
9 Matt Cassel, QB KC 267 158 59.2 1881 7.05 53 16 4 15 94.5 209
10 Peyton Manning, QB IND 386 248 64.2 2663 6.90 73 16 4 12 93.9 296

Cassel is not as bad as you think. What are you going to do if he does happen to get the Chiefs into the playoffs? or further?

Basically my point is that none of the people proclaiming to know what is going on doesn't have a clue. If they did I'm sure they wouldn't sitting their ass talking shit on the internet.

You spend a lot of time pointing out a guy is a top 10 QB for never saying he's a top 10 guy. I know if I think the guy isn't top 10 I'm sure going to spend a lot of time showing everyone why he is.

And people thought I was you.

You are so secure in Cassel you can't even take time to tell us who you think is a better QB. I'm going to take that as you think he's the best QB in the league. Dumbass.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

Sure doesn't look like the same plays we were using last year, but don't let the video record stifle your ignorance.

Haley used the left over play book from Gailey with modifications.

I'm not a professional scout, but if I can see that what the F is wrong with you?

This is where you get your dumbass back.

Haley used his playbook and simplified it because of the sudden change.
And if you knew what the **** you were talking about, and also paid attention to the changes last year, and the reason for those changes, you'd know this.

Haley and Weis both are deciples of the Earhardt-Perkins system.

Weis is simply expanding the playbook.

[southbeachtraitor]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

What it takes:

1) Must be drafted by Chiefs
2) Must carry team on back
3) Must have strong arm to throw bombs, otherwise will get ripped for girly throws
4) Must win multiple Super Bowls, or at least not rip KC restaurants

5)Must have dog fighting ring and be arrested with jail time.

[Norman Einstein]

Originally Posted by milkman

Haley used his playbook and simplified it because of the sudden change.
And if you knew what the **** you were talking about, and also paid attention to the changes last year, and the reason for those changes, you'd know this.

Haley and Weis both are deciples of the Earhardt-Perkins system.

Weis is simply expanding the playbook.

Whatever you want to believe.

The system might have the same base, but even Weis said in the KC Star before the season that the system would be different from last season.

You really should use spell checker when you are mad. When you don't you look like a dumbass - whoa, too late, eh

[Norman Einstein]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

You are so secure in Cassel you can't even take time to tell us who you think is a better QB. I'm going to take that as you think he's the best QB in the league.

Once again, I'm not going to try to create a dream team in KC. We don't have access to anyone but the current three on the roster and any other has beens that are floating around.

Why whine about what we don't have and can't get?

I never said you were me, I know better. Even more-so now.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

Once again, I'm not going to try to create a dream team in KC. We don't have access to anyone but the current three on the roster and any other has beens that are floating around.

Why whine about what we don't have and can't get?

I never said you were me, I know better. Even more-so now.

I'm sure Herm was the best coach ever while we had him. And King Carl was the best GM in the world until he resigned.

Your and idiot.

[Norman Einstein]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

I'm sure Herm was the best coach ever while we had him. And King Carl was the best GM in the world until he resigned.

Your and idiot.

You don't know shit. Herman was a piece of shit from day one. CP had his time but outlived his usefulness.

You can carry this argument on by yourself, I'm not wasting my time.