Anybody here ever actually run the 40?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

lol, why do we all have to be from the backwoods.

i grew up in wyandotte county.

no one is saying that it doesnt happen, just that the % of people here that say their times are that good just doesnt seem correct.

Because Hootie, from Illinois, has stated that running a 4.5 is impossible, as have other people in isolated areas.

Seriously, Jason: Maybe you don't follow high school football across the nation or watch the national signing day, etc. But for you or anyone else to patently claim that hundreds, if not thousands, of kids run TRUE 4.5 forties across the nation is ABSURD.

I don't recall anyone in this thread claiming that they benched "400 and ran a 4.4" has Hootie so blatantly exaggerated (as usual). He's so full of shit that it's no longer funny, it's pathetic.

And quite honestly, I have a new found respect for Doomy & Beach Tribe (two of my, for lack of a better term, adversaries in this forum) because they've obviously competed and their statements come from experience, not through a drunken, myopic, insular haze.

Regardless of all the blather, there are guys that are freaks of nature out there that can run blazzingly fast and lift an ungodly amount of free weights at an early age. But that alone does not make one a gifted athlete capable of playing at a high level beyond high school.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And quite honestly, I have a new found respect for Doomy & Beach Tribe (two of my, for lack of a better term, adversaries in this forum) because they've obviously competed and their statements come from experience, not through a drunken, myopic, insular haze.

HEY!

I competed....I just did so poorly.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

HEY!

I competed....I just did so poorly.

Yeah, we're in the same club!

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Because Hootie, from Illinois, has stated that running a 4.5 is impossible, as have other people in isolated areas.

Seriously, Jason: Maybe you don't follow high school football across the nation or watch the national signing day, etc. But for you or anyone else to patently claim that hundreds, if not thousands, of kids run TRUE 4.5 forties across the nation is ABSURD.

I don't recall anyone in this thread claiming that they benched "400 and ran a 4.4" has Hootie so blatantly exaggerated (as usual). He's so full of shit that it's no longer funny, it's pathetic.

And quite honestly, I have a new found respect for Doomy & Beach Tribe (two of my, for lack of a better term, adversaries in this forum) because they've obviously competed and their statements come from experience, not through a drunken, myopic, insular haze.

Regardless of all the blather, there are guys that are freaks of nature out there that can run blazzingly fast and lift an ungodly amount of free weights at an early age. But that alone does not make one a gifted athlete capable of playing at a high level beyond high school.

I still stand behind the times that were recorded at the camp that I attended, and still believe that there are many 4.5 runners out there, but it seems that these guys also have a reason for their believing that times can often be skewed.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

I still stand behind the times that were recorded at the camp that I attended, and still believe that there are many 4.5 runners out there, but it seems that these guys also have a reason for their believing that times can often be skewed.

thanks for being honest .Props.

FTR i never thought you were lying. my only bone of contention was the fact that there are SO many that say they hit that.

IIRC your post said about 10% of the guys at that football camp could after training for it.

i can actually believe that but to hear that there are THOUSANDS (thanks dane) in the us every year that can just sounds lke some kids and coaches that inflated theit numbers for what ever reason

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

thanks for being honest .Props.

FTR i never thought you were lying. my only bone of contention was the fact that there are SO many that say they hit that.

IIRC your post said about 10% of the guys at that football camp could after training for it.

i can actually believe that but to hear that there are THOUSANDS (thanks dane) in the us every year that can just sounds lke some kids and coaches that inflated theit numbers for what ever reason

To be fair as well, thousands is not that large of a number when you consider the sheer amount of kids who are running 40s every spring, and fall. The articles I posted also refer to the statement that I was trying to make that out outlines the point that a fast, or.....not so fast 40 time, hardly translates to an athlete being a good football player or not, as our titan friend was also getting at.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

To be fair as well, thousands is not that large of a number when you consider the sheer amount of kids who are running 40s every spring, and fall. The articles I posted also refer to the statement that I was trying to make that out outlines the point that a fast, or.....not so fast 40 time, hardly translates to an athlete being a good football player or not, as our titan friend was also getting at.

i get the point that a fast guy doesnt necessarily SP? have to be a good football player. and i agree.

BUT when we have people here claiming to run SUB 4.5 thats where i have an issue with how they were timed.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i get the point that a fast guy doesnt necessarily SP? have to be a good football player. and i agree.

BUT when we have people here claiming to run SUB 4.5 thats where i have an issue with how they were timed.

Out of ALL of the people here that posted their 40 times from high school and college, how many have stated they ran a sub-4.5?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Out of ALL of the people here that posted their 40 times from high school and college, how many have stated they ran a sub-4.5?

well dane im not going back through and reading but there was more than one.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Out of ALL of the people here that posted their 40 times from high school and college, how many have stated they ran a sub-4.5?

well two on the first page at 80 ppp. and dirk so that makes three i know of for sure.

one said he ran a 4.29. sportsshrink said his fastest was 4.45, dirk said 4.3-4.4 consistently.

now how many people have given times that werent obviously BS?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i get the point that a fast guy doesnt necessarily SP? have to be a good football player. and i agree.

BUT when we have people here claiming to run SUB 4.5 thats where i have an issue with how they were timed.

Bingo. I'm sure they were "timed" at that and it makes for a good dick swinging story, but in reality

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

To be fair as well, thousands is not that large of a number when you consider the sheer amount of kids who are running 40s every spring, and fall. The articles I posted also refer to the statement that I was trying to make that out outlines the point that a fast, or.....not so fast 40 time, hardly translates to an athlete being a good football player or not, as our titan friend was also getting at.

We had 110 kids on our freshmen team. We had to split it into A and B squads. Then we had a Soph, JV and Varsity team as well.

The sheer number of kids that play football alone in HS is staggering, let alone track athletes, soccer players, etc...

And for a lot of people, the fastest you'll ever be is at 18 years old.

It's odd to me that there is such a backlash against the idea that there are a lot of very fast people out there when you consider the raw numbers involved.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

We had 110 kids on our freshmen team. We had to split it into A and B squads. Then we had a Soph, JV and Varsity team as well.

The sheer number of kids that play football alone in HS is staggering, let alone track athletes, soccer players, etc...

And for a lot of people, the fastest you'll ever be is at 18 years old.

It's odd to me that there is such a backlash against the idea that there are a lot of very fast people out there when you consider the raw numbers involved.

Absolutely. We had 652 kids in my graduation class alone.

When you look at 120 Division I football schools, each with a 100 guys or more per team, then add in I-A, II and the NAIA ranks, it's not unreasonable to believe there are thousands of kids that run 4.5, especially with the nutrition and training regimens that exist today.

Plus, this is a ****ing FOOTBALL FORUM. How is it completely out of the realm of possibility that a few guys here ran a 4.5 or better?

Oh, it's not. Except for myopic, insular drunktards like Hootie.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Absolutely. We had 652 kids in my graduation class alone.

When you look at 120 Division I football schools, each with a 100 guys or more per team, then add in I-A, II and the NAIA ranks, it's not unreasonable to believe there are thousands of kids that run 4.5, especially with the nutrition and training regimens that exist today.

Plus, this is a ****ing FOOTBALL FORUM. How is it completely out of the realm of possibility that a few guys here ran a 4.5 or better?

Oh, it's not. Except for myopic, insular drunktards like Hootie.

If he can't do it, in his infinite awesomeness (afterall, he's gotten drunk and banged a chick he met at a bar), then clearly it's impossible.

I had over 2,000 people at my HS my freshman year. So if you figure only 1% of the male population is legitimately fast, that's roughly 10 people from my HS that could've pegged that 4.5 mark or better.

And comparing NFL players that can do this at 200 lbs with high school athletes and flat out runners that are doing it at 160 lbs is equally asinine. NFL athletes aren't amazing because of their raw speed, but more because of their ability to be that fast and that strong. The musculature involved in being cock strong like a lot of these guys are often interferes with your ability to be fast.

So a HS kid that doesn't have that build that can put up a 40 time in the mid 4s is very very feasible. Then when you look at the raw numbers involved, this idea that we've known people that can do it is hardly outside the realm.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Absolutely. We had 652 kids in my graduation class alone.

When you look at 120 Division I football schools, each with a 100 guys or more per team, then add in I-A, II and the NAIA ranks, it's not unreasonable to believe there are thousands of kids that run 4.5, especially with the nutrition and training regimens that exist today.

Plus, this is a ****ing FOOTBALL FORUM. How is it completely out of the realm of possibility that a few guys here ran a 4.5 or better?

Oh, it's not. Except for myopic, insular drunktards like Hootie.

So? These is a forum based on WATCHING football, not playing it.

Thats like saying that people on porn boards are the people that have sex a lot. More than likely, they're not.