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Old 04-19-2011, 08:38 AM  
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Chiefs trade scenario?

Every year players fall in the draft that we don't anticipate. I remember when many on this board were enamored with Everette Brown and Clausen and both fell to the 2nd round and several endorsed taking those players early.

I have also talked about trading down in previous years, but I feel that trading up may be a better option this year if the following scenario plays out.

If Julio Jones falls to the 12th pick in the draft where the Minnesota Vikings pick, the Chiefs should trade up to get him.

For starters I believe that Todd Hailey is one of the best WR and TE coaches in the game. If my memory serves me well, everywhere he goes, pro bowl WRs follow. I don't think the improved play of Dwayne Bowe is by chance.

Secondly, Julio Jones fits our system very well. We make running the ball a priority and he is the best run blockers in this draft that I am aware of. Also, he provides a deep threat. He needs polishing, but I believe that he would be pro bowler for the Chiefs with Haley's coaching. This situation appears to be one with a high floor and very high ceiling.

Third. The Vikings are in desperate need of a DT and we should be able to trade Glenn Dorsey to the Vikings for partial compensation in the trade. Dorsey is a better fit in there 4-3 system and provides immediate security for their problems with the old Williams wall, where one of the Williams maybe suspended. Dorsey has shown enough to provide considerable value to the Vikings in the 4-3, where he is a better fit.

I haven't looked at the trade chart, but I am guessing that the Vikings could get Dorsey, and maybe our 3rd and 5th and a pick next year depending on the play of Dorsey. Maybe this is too much or not quite enough, but I am guessing that it is in the ball park for a nine position move up depending on how you value Dorsey.


Go get one the best athletes in this draft!

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Old 04-22-2011, 10:32 AM   #106
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I like the buffalo trade when I used those picks, based on drafttek, we got Brooks Reed as our first pick he is starting to grow on me. Now how bout this trade scenario. What if for some crazy reason Quinn tumbles and he is available at 17. We call our old buddy the pats or would you not make that trade. Better yet what would we have to give up. Quinn and Hali together would be sick it would be like Neil and Derrick back rushing the passer how I miss those days.
ok, so how come he doesn't get a thumbs down for trading w/NE but I do? Does everyone hate Pouncey that much? If so, why? It's the MIDDLE of our line that needs help the most. Wiegmann is 53 this year.
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Old 04-22-2011, 10:38 AM   #107
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ok, so how come he doesn't get a thumbs down for trading w/NE but I do? Does everyone hate Pouncey that much? If so, why? It's the MIDDLE of our line that needs help the most. Wiegmann is 53 this year.
To me, you can move Lilja to LG and plug in Asomoah at RG to fix the situation at guard, or at the very least get an idea if we need to address it in the fuure.

What we need most is center, and so far, Pouncey hasn't proven he's capable.
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Old 04-22-2011, 03:32 PM   #108
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What we need most is center, and so far, Pouncey hasn't proven he's capable.
How about Zane Taylor in 6 or 7? That is if the right value centers don't come up earlier.
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Old 04-22-2011, 03:37 PM   #109
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To me, you can move Lilja to LG and plug in Asomoah at RG to fix the situation at guard, or at the very least get an idea if we need to address it in the fuure.

What we need most is center, and so far, Pouncey hasn't proven he's capable.
Pretty much. That's why I'm confused with the folks that list guard as a need.
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Old 04-22-2011, 03:51 PM   #110
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Pretty much. That's why I'm confused with the folks that list guard as a need.
It's not an immediate need. But both Lilja and Waters are getting old.
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Old 04-22-2011, 04:23 PM   #111
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It's not an immediate need. But both Lilja and Waters are getting old.
Lilja won't be 30 until the season if there is one. That's not that old for a guard.
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:27 PM   #112
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Lilja won't be 30 until the season if there is one. That's not that old for a guard.
My bad. I thought he was older.
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