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Old 04-27-2011, 01:44 PM   #1
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YOU CANT CHERRY PICK!
Honest to God, you guys are beating your chests over a 12 yard run because he made someone miss?

Look at LaGarrette Blount highlites and you'll see an 'elusive' RB. He has his TD leaping into the endzone. He has his spin moves leaving DEs in the dust. Hell, he hurdles a MFing guy.

He also weighs about 50 lbs more than McCluster, is much more durable, stronger and just as fast in a straight line. Oh, and he was an UDFA.

You can get scat-backs with picks a hell of a lot lower than 36 overall. Hell, you can get quality RBs with picks lower than that. McCluster was a bad pick and some 12 yard run where he makes a DE trip over his own feet doesn't do anything to show otherwise.
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Old 04-27-2011, 01:45 PM   #2
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Hell, you can get quality RBs with picks lower than that.
Bullshit. /Charles...wait.
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Old 04-27-2011, 01:46 PM   #3
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This is going to kick ass with McCluster at RB ! ! !
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Old 04-27-2011, 01:47 PM   #4
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Old 04-27-2011, 01:48 PM   #5
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Honest to God, you guys are beating your chests over a 12 yard run because he made someone miss?
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Old 04-27-2011, 01:49 PM   #6
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Honest to God, you guys are beating your chests over a 12 yard run because he made someone miss?

Look at LaGarrette Blount highlites and you'll see an 'elusive' RB. He has his TD leaping into the endzone. He has his spin moves leaving DEs in the dust. Hell, he hurdles a MFing guy.

He also weighs about 50 lbs more than McCluster, is much more durable, stronger and just as fast in a straight line. Oh, and he was an UDFA.

You can get scat-backs with picks a hell of a lot lower than 36 overall. Hell, you can get quality RBs with picks lower than that. McCluster was a bad pick and some 12 yard run where he makes a DE trip over his own feet doesn't do anything to show otherwise.
So since you can get league-leading RBs like Priest Holmes and Arian Foster as UDFAs you shouldn't ever draft a RB with an early round pick.
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Old 04-27-2011, 01:51 PM   #7
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So since you can get league-leading RBs like Priest Holmes and Arian Foster as UDFAs you shouldn't ever draft a RB with an early round pick.
You shouldn't ever draft a scat-back with a 36 overall, no. You shouldn't ever draft someone that you know isn't capable of carrying an NFL workload at 36 overall so you try to convert him to a slot WR. And you damn sure shouldn't defend said pick when player gets moved back to RB after being proven incapable of making a legit impact at WR.

But that's a nice little straw-man you've assembled there.
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Old 04-27-2011, 01:57 PM   #8
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You shouldn't ever draft a scat-back with a 36 overall, no. You shouldn't ever draft someone that you know isn't capable of carrying an NFL workload at 36 overall so you try to convert him to a slot WR. And you damn sure shouldn't defend said pick when player gets moved back to RB after being proven incapable of making a legit impact at WR.

But that's a nice little straw-man you've assembled there.
1. Chris Johnson is a "Scat-back". Went the 1st rnd.
2. Charles would've been a 1st rounder had people known what they know now. He's a "Scat-Back"
3. We dont actually KNOW what the Chiefs are doing with McCluster. The OP is very misleading.
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Old 04-27-2011, 02:02 PM   #9
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1. Chris Johnson is a "Scat-back". Went the 1st rnd.
2. Charles would've been a 1st rounder had people known what they know now. He's a "Scat-Back"
3. We dont actually KNOW what the Chiefs are doing with McCluster. The OP is very misleading.
Chris Johnson is no scat back and was no scat-back. He's a speed rusher that, IIRC, broke the 40 time record at the combine. He also showed a solid power game as a full-time rusher at UCF. If you honestly want to compare Johnson and McCluster, do so at your own peril. As far as I'm concerned, it only serves to undermine your credibility.

Charles is also not a scat-back. Even when he was taken people marveled at his balance and the fact that he was actually pretty sturdy off-tackle (by all means, review the thread). The concern with Charles was his experience and the fact that he ran tall. No, he was not seen as a scat-back. Even still, he was taken a hell of a lot later than 36 overall because, again, you don't take guys you don't think can shoulder a legitimate NFL workload at 36 overall.
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Chris Johnson is no scat back and was no scat-back. He's a speed rusher that, IIRC, broke the 40 time record at the combine. He also showed a solid power game as a full-time rusher at UCF. If you honestly want to compare Johnson and McCluster, do so at your own peril. As far as I'm concerned, it only serves to undermine your credibility.

Charles is also not a scat-back. Even when he was taken people marveled at his balance and the fact that he was actually pretty sturdy off-tackle (by all means, review the thread). The concern with Charles was his experience and the fact that he ran tall. No, he was not seen as a scat-back. Even still, he was taken a hell of a lot later than 36 overall because, again, you don't take guys you don't think can shoulder a legitimate NFL workload at 36 overall.
I'm not comparing Johnson to McCluster. Not sure where you got that from. We're talking about "Scat Backs".

Johnson identifies as a scat back much more then he identifies as any other type of back. And Charles was considered a scat back. He came in with the same kind of concerns as McCluster.
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So since you can get league-leading RBs like Priest Holmes and Arian Foster as UDFAs you shouldn't ever draft a RB with an early round pick.
If I were running a team, the only time I'd take a running back early in the draft would be if all the other pieces of my championship-contending team were in place. Until then, I'd take RBs late in the draft and through free agency (both rookie and vet) and try to find a solution through quantity rather than quality. RBs are too short-lived to take a first round stud when your team is still several pieces (and 2 or 3 years) short of being a contender. But you're right that it would be ridiculous to go to the extreme you're talking about.
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I REALLY like dex but almost all of those were trick plays
which is what Haley loves to use

Its what he and Kurt Warner used to argue about and then after they made the superbowl Kurt did an interview where he said those plays where what gave them the advantage in the playoffs and the superbowl.

Haley will find unconventional ways to utilize DMC the more he learns how to do so.
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which is what Haley loves to use

Its what he and Kurt Warner used to argue about and then after they made the superbowl Kurt did an interview where he said those plays where what gave them the advantage in the playoffs and the superbowl.

Haley will find unconventional ways to utilize DMC the more he learns how to do so.
which would be awesome if there weren't freakly athletic linebackers on every team.
a lot of arizonas trick plays were passes and shit
we cant run the triple option
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