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Old 05-12-2011, 08:45 PM   #1
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So you think NFL owners want to price their product out of range of their customers? Not very sound business.
The owners are motivated by profit, not affordability. If they could find 100 fans each willing to pay 1 million dollars per ticket, they would do that in a heartbeat even though it would mean their stadiums are as empty and silent as a mausoleum.

Ticket prices are based on maximizing revenue, raising price just to the breaking point but not quite beyond (for many people, not all). The owners don't give a rat's ass about keeping tickets affordable, nor should they.
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:49 PM   #2
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The owners are motivated by profit, not affordability.
Of course they are motivated by profit. That's the point of owning a business.

The difference is, an owner wants to profit off his football team for the rest of his life. A player knows he has a limited number of years to collect his paycheck from football.

Do you think any player gives a shit if they run the league out of business in the long run?

Answer the 3 questions I posed in my first post.
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:55 PM   #3
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Of course they are motivated by profit. That's the point of owning a business.

The difference is, an owner wants to profit off his football team for the rest of his life. A player knows he has a limited number of years to collect his paycheck from football.

Do you think any player gives a shit if they run the league out of business in the long run?

Answer the 3 questions I posed in my first post.
don't be dumb. The owners do not give a rat's ass about affordability, UNLESS affordability is the point where supply and demand cross on the theoretical chart. If ticket prices are affordable, I give the owners NO credit WHATSOEVER because they were FORCED into making the game affordable by solid unforgiving economics.
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Old 05-12-2011, 09:11 PM   #4
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don't be dumb. The owners do not give a rat's ass about affordability, UNLESS affordability is the point where supply and demand cross on the theoretical chart. If ticket prices are affordable, I give the owners NO credit WHATSOEVER because they were FORCED into making the game affordable by solid unforgiving economics.
The owners care about long term success of the league. Affordability factors into that.

Your problem is you're talking about "giving credit" like this is an issue of choosing which side is good vs bad.

They are both trying to maximize their profits at the expense of fans. It's not about which side has more noble intent.

I side with the owners because I believe they have more reason to keep the NFL in my price range for the rest of my life. It's not because I believe they have any altruistic motives.
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The owners care about long term success of the league. Affordability factors into that.

Your problem is you're talking about "giving credit" like this is an issue of choosing which side is good vs bad.

They are both trying to maximize their profits at the expense of fans. It's not about which side has more noble intent.

I side with the owners because I believe they have more reason to keep the NFL in my price range for the rest of my life. It's not because I believe they have any altruistic motives.
Players get a percentage of revenue, and are generally represented by a union that is looking to keep things going for current and future players. Owners get a percentage of revenue. Both sides have basically the same interest in keeping the game affordable enough to max out revenues in both the long and the short term.
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Old 05-12-2011, 09:27 PM   #6
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Players get a percentage of revenue, and are generally represented by a union that is looking to keep things going for current and future players. Owners get a percentage of revenue. Both sides have basically the same interest in keeping the game affordable enough to max out revenues in both the long and the short term.
If players were looking for anything other than fast riches, they would have allowed a rookie pay scale a long time ago.

I don't believe for 1 second that players have the same interest in the long term health of the league. They only need it to last as long as their careers.
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If players were looking for anything other than fast riches, they would have allowed a rookie pay scale a long time ago.

I don't believe for 1 second that players have the same interest in the long term health of the league. They only need it to last as long as their careers.
There has been a rookie salary cap in place, and rookie pay scale has no effect on overall revenues paid to players.
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