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Old 09-05-2011, 03:28 PM  
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Broncos are starting Orton because they don't want to pay Tebow

This is hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. It will be even funnier if they dump Tebow to draft a "cheaper" franchise QB.

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Contracts Dictated which QB Started

Lost in all of our fan hoopla about the idea of these QBs competing to start was the inevitable fact that Tebow was not going to start. No chance, was never going to happen. And here's the factual contract data as to why:

Written into Tebow's contract is this qualifier "Tebow's contract DOUBLES from 11.25 million to 22.50 million if he plays 55% of the time in TWO of his first three seasons".

Meanwhile, Orton's contract this season? 9 Million, 6 million guaranteed. So, since no team would trade for Orton at franchise player money, and since Orton refused to renegotiate his contract, the only remaining option was to cut him and pay the 6 million. We weren't going to bench him and pay 9 million.

So, this was the dilemma, pay Orton millions and millions to not play AND double Tebow's contract, or keep Tebow on the bench and not hitting escalators while getting something for the 6 million you owe Orton no matter what.

And you have to wonder about Tebow's future here due to his contract. A contract signed before the rookie wage scale. If Tebow plays 70% of the snaps in 2013, his contract doubles to 22.5 million and if the team makes multiple playoffs under Tebow and he achieves leaguewide awards his contract triples to 33 million.

Meanwhile, the #1 overall selection this year, Cam Newton's contract? 4 Years, 22 million. Andrew Luck is looking at the same deal. And there are 3-4 other QBs likely to go in the Top 20 in the next draft for much cheaper deals in the strongest QB draft in quite some time.

And what about Brady Quinn you might ask? Well, if he plays 70% of our snaps, his contract goes from 700,000 to 6.6 million due to a 5.9 million escalator bonus.

Do you think this was a fair QB competition? Hell no. Orton was never not going to start. Not with Bowlen in a financial crises and unable to even make waiver claims because of financial concerns. Let alone not even being competitive on the open free agent market. We weren't going to pay Orton millions not to play.

We have this big Quinn versus Tebow versus Orton debate, and there probably was a true battle for the #2 spot (which we laughingly refused to name), but there was never a competition for the #1 spot. Finances dictated that. Period.

So if you wonder why Tebow or Quinn didn't play with the starters, or Orton with the 2nd team, this is why. The team knew what direction it was going months and months ago despite telling us it was a competition. Lying has been standard for the front office this offseason despite declarations of openness. Sure they tried to trade Orton's albatross of a contract, but no team was taking that unless Kyle re-negotiated and he made it clear he would not absent a pricy long term deal. Nobody in the NFL wants to give him that. And as for all the chatter about "Tebow being terrible", almost guaranteed it was planted by the front office to try and justify to fans why he wasn't given a chance to start.

Too bad for them the contract information was made public. A little research sure sheds some light on an awful lot of questions and confusing bait and switch comments by EFX.
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Old 09-05-2011, 07:41 PM   #31
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Anyone that thinks Tebow is on the bench only due to $ is insane.
Precisely. Otherwise, a dozen overpaid QB's in this league would be riding the bench.
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Old 09-05-2011, 07:44 PM   #32
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Anyone that thinks Tebow is on the bench only due to $ is insane.
Quite right, Mile High Moron.

He's also on the bench because he sucks.
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Old 09-05-2011, 07:47 PM   #33
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If you were a Broncos fan, what would you want them to do?

I would want them to roll the dice with Tebow. They aren't making the playoffs either way, so you might as well see what you have. If he sucks, you're in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes, so that works as well.
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Old 09-05-2011, 07:49 PM   #34
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If you were a Broncos fan, what would you want them to do?

I would want them to roll the dice with Tebow. They aren't making the playoffs either way, so you might as well see what you have. If he sucks, you're in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes, so that works as well.
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:07 PM   #35
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I have a noobtastic question. Why is GifHorse neg repped to high heaven?
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:11 PM   #36
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Anyone that thinks Tebow is on the bench only due to $ is insane.
I don't think that's really the issue here. I think it's more the fact that the guy that lead the team to a 3-10 record last year and was very close to being traded is suddenly the unquestioned starter, while neither of the guys that were supposed to be competing for the #1 spot are given any shot at competing at all. It's just weird, honestly.
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:11 PM   #37
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Seems to me like the Broncos organization is scared that Tebow will succeed. Alluding to the playoffs and awards section of his contract. Either way I don't want him in Denver. They will fail for years to come.
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:15 PM   #38
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I think the thread title should read,

Broncos are starting Orton because they don't want to pay Tebow since he sucks even though he tries, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really,hard....at least 2 more reallys harder than any other QB in the NFL.
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:27 PM   #39
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:34 PM   #40
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:35 PM   #41
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Old 09-05-2011, 11:26 PM   #42
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I think it's more the fact that the guy that lead the team to a 3-10 record last year and was very close to being traded is suddenly the unquestioned starter
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Old 09-06-2011, 12:58 AM   #43
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So you are quoting some random poster from a random Broncos message board???

And whoever posted that is a moron. The Broncos would LOVE to start Tebow because he is the most marketable athlete alive. A productive, Pro Bowl caliber Tebow would give Pat Bowlen more cash than he knows what to do with. He just isn't ready yet...... Why tarnish your golden goose when you can wait a couple of years and reap the benefits?
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So you are quoting some random poster from a random Broncos message board???

And whoever posted that is a moron. The Broncos would LOVE to start Tebow because he is the most marketable athlete alive. A productive, Pro Bowl caliber Tebow would give Pat Bowlen more cash than he knows what to do with. He just isn't ready yet...... Why tarnish your golden goose when you can wait a couple of years and reap the benefits?
Golden goose? You're telling me if the Broncos get their shot at Andrew Luck next year they won't take him?

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