Broncos are starting Orton because they don't want to pay Tebow

[Hammock Parties]

This is hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. It will be even funnier if they dump Tebow to draft a "cheaper" franchise QB.

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=192962

Contracts Dictated which QB Started

Lost in all of our fan hoopla about the idea of these QBs competing to start was the inevitable fact that Tebow was not going to start. No chance, was never going to happen. And here's the factual contract data as to why:

Written into Tebow's contract is this qualifier "Tebow's contract DOUBLES from 11.25 million to 22.50 million if he plays 55% of the time in TWO of his first three seasons".

Meanwhile, Orton's contract this season? 9 Million, 6 million guaranteed. So, since no team would trade for Orton at franchise player money, and since Orton refused to renegotiate his contract, the only remaining option was to cut him and pay the 6 million. We weren't going to bench him and pay 9 million.

So, this was the dilemma, pay Orton millions and millions to not play AND double Tebow's contract, or keep Tebow on the bench and not hitting escalators while getting something for the 6 million you owe Orton no matter what.

And you have to wonder about Tebow's future here due to his contract. A contract signed before the rookie wage scale. If Tebow plays 70% of the snaps in 2013, his contract doubles to 22.5 million and if the team makes multiple playoffs under Tebow and he achieves leaguewide awards his contract triples to 33 million.

Meanwhile, the #1 overall selection this year, Cam Newton's contract? 4 Years, 22 million. Andrew Luck is looking at the same deal. And there are 3-4 other QBs likely to go in the Top 20 in the next draft for much cheaper deals in the strongest QB draft in quite some time.

And what about Brady Quinn you might ask? Well, if he plays 70% of our snaps, his contract goes from 700,000 to 6.6 million due to a 5.9 million escalator bonus.

Do you think this was a fair QB competition? Hell no. Orton was never not going to start. Not with Bowlen in a financial crises and unable to even make waiver claims because of financial concerns. Let alone not even being competitive on the open free agent market. We weren't going to pay Orton millions not to play.

We have this big Quinn versus Tebow versus Orton debate, and there probably was a true battle for the #2 spot (which we laughingly refused to name), but there was never a competition for the #1 spot. Finances dictated that. Period.

So if you wonder why Tebow or Quinn didn't play with the starters, or Orton with the 2nd team, this is why. The team knew what direction it was going months and months ago despite telling us it was a competition. Lying has been standard for the front office this offseason despite declarations of openness. Sure they tried to trade Orton's albatross of a contract, but no team was taking that unless Kyle re-negotiated and he made it clear he would not absent a pricy long term deal. Nobody in the NFL wants to give him that. And as for all the chatter about "Tebow being terrible", almost guaranteed it was planted by the front office to try and justify to fans why he wasn't given a chance to start.

Too bad for them the contract information was made public. A little research sure sheds some light on an awful lot of questions and confusing bait and switch comments by EFX.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by SNR

Golden goose? You're telling me if the Broncos get their shot at Andrew Luck next year they won't take him?

There is no platinum goose, dildo-eater

They probably would, but the entire reason they are starting Kyle Orton is because he gives us a better chance to win.

Tebow isn't ready, the Broncos wished he was the best pure QB on the roster at this time but he just isn't right now.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

He wasn't even the 2nd best pure QB on the roster and that is quite sad. He was 4th best according to a twitter post, so it must be true

[Tom_A_Hawk]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

So you are quoting some random poster from a random Broncos message board???

But quoting you as fact is correct?

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Tom_A_Hawk

But quoting you as fact is correct?

GoChiefs made this thread to sound like it was fact. And it is 100% bullshit speculation.

[Sofa King]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

So you are quoting some random poster from a random Broncos message board???

And whoever posted that is a moron. The Broncos would LOVE to start Tebow because he is the most marketable athlete alive. A productive, Pro Bowl caliber Tebow would give Pat Bowlen more cash than he knows what to do with. He just isn't ready yet...... Why tarnish your golden goose when you can wait a couple of years and reap the benefits?

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

Broncos are starting Orton because Tebow sucks.

Precisely

If they truly wanted Luck "for sure" (which I'm sure they do)they would start Tebow every game this season. But Tebow is sooooooooooooo bad it would be too obvious and Elway has to show at least he sees what everyone else sees and how can you start this overrated college QB who can't throw or move the ball while Orton effectively produces???

It comes down to "playing to win" at all times and the fans won't tolerate failure for very long. How did the donkey fans feel when Orton went 6-0 ?

[King_Chief_Fan]

we should help them out.

Orton or Tebow can come help the Chiefs.

I haven't seen anyone playing that position on the Chiefs getting the job done.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

we should help them out.

Orton or Tebow can come help the Chiefs.

I haven't seen anyone playing that position on the Chiefs getting the job done.

You've got to be smoking to think Tebow wouldn't be 4th string on our lineup.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by whoman69

You've got to be smoking to think Tebow wouldn't be 4th string on our lineup.

Actually we could really use a decent TE. Tebow would probably start ahead of Pope.

[MagicHef]

Am I safe in assuming Clay is the only one on this board that watched Tebow's starts last year and his snaps in the preseason this year? He's the only person that seems to have an opinion of Tebow that is anywhere close to realistic.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Am I safe in assuming Clay is the only one on this board that watched Tebow's starts last year and his snaps in the preseason this year? He's the only person that seems to have an opinion of Tebow that is anywhere close to realistic.

I think Tim Tebow sucks to be honest with you.

I also think not even giving the guy a chance to take the job away from a guy who is taking the Broncos nowhere is bush league.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by vailpass

I guess when you have over 111,000 posts your emphasis is on quantity over quality. This OP is just plain stupid.

Vailpass with his usual reading fail.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Am I safe in assuming Clay is the only one on this board that watched Tebow's starts last year and his snaps in the preseason this year? He's the only person that seems to have an opinion of Tebow that is anywhere close to realistic.

So what's realistic? Ex-QB announcers are saying the guy has horrible footwork, accuracy and is nowhere near where he should be. Is it realistic to think that in this age that a QB can have a 50% completion rating and be effective?

[Easy 6]

Bottom line, Fox isnt creative nor offensive minded enough to know what to do with the guy... the day mcdaniels left is the day Tebows future in dinver took a dive.

He should follow josh to stl next year or he'll be a new age Eric Crouch that doesnt fit anywhere, at any position.

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Mod abuse.

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Clay looks good in Red.

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

It's in the spirit of Red Friday.

LOL. Well that's awesome. That username is genius though.