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Old 09-06-2011, 12:48 PM  
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Keep your god damned phones in your ****ing pockets while you drive
Lost a friend yesterday because some stupid kid was texting and lost control of her car, went across the highway, and caused my friend to put his bike down.

He lost his life because of you Keonna Whiters of Wichita. I know it was not your intention to cause this good man to lose his life... but **** you none the less. I hope the DA charges you with Vehicular Manslaughter at the very least.


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Old 09-06-2011, 04:28 PM   #91
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Hands free makes a huge difference IMO, it's no different than having a conversation with a passenger. There's something about having a phone up to the ear that makes people go off into their own little world. It's like they forget that they are driving.
But think about this for a second. Why would holding up your phone to your ear make any difference? Because one hand is off the wheel? That may impact your ability to make an emergency lane change, but it should have no impact on braking. Why would holding the phone make you more distracted than not holding it? How can holding it make you miss a stop sign or a stop light?
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:31 PM   #92
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And it's illegal here in CA. Is it not in MO and KS? I'm not up to date on the driving laws there. Texting and non-hands free talking are ticketed here. They start with a nominal fine and escalate for repeat offenses.
I'm not aware of any laws regarding it here in NE. One problem is, unless you get into an accident because of it, it's going to be tough to enforce.
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:32 PM   #93
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And it's illegal here in CA. Is it not in MO and KS? I'm not up to date on the driving laws there. Texting and non-hands free talking are ticketed here. They start with a nominal fine and escalate for repeat offenses.
Yeah....it's illegal here....but how many people do you see driving around with a phone up to their ear? I've seen more now that it's illegal...then I did when it was legal.
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:33 PM   #94
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I'm not aware of any laws regarding it here in NE. One problem is, unless you get into an accident because of it, it's going to be tough to enforce.
The non hands free is enforced fairly often. If the cop sees you with a phone up to your ear you get pulled over it's a primary offense. A general no talking on the cell phone with hands free would be impossible to enforce short of blocking cell signals.
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:35 PM   #95
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But think about this for a second. Why would holding up your phone to your ear make any difference? Because one hand is off the wheel? That may impact your ability to make an emergency lane change, but it should have no impact on braking. Why would holding the phone make you more distracted than not holding it? How can holding it make you miss a stop sign or a stop light?
I'm only speaking from my own experience from using both methods. When I used the hands-free device, I found myself pausing from the conversations more often because I was concentrating on driving. I believe there's something psychological about having that phone up to your ear, the conversation tends to become primary and driving secondary.
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:37 PM   #96
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pr capone, I am SO sorry for the loss of your friend. My parents (also Harley riders) and I were one of the first on the scene after it happened. I didn't know Dwight and Linda personally, but I am still so broken up about all of this. It never should have happened. Keonna Whitters, unintentionally or not, is a MURDERER. I hope she is remorseful for what she has done, and I really hope they throw the book at her.

Once, again, my sympathies for your loss. My prayers go out to his entire family.
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:55 PM   #97
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Well you're wrong. I've seen people driving like complete asshats while talking on the phone as well. In fact, I see that more often than I see people texting.
Maybe it's just the fact that they're simply asshats at driving and not the cell that makes them drive bad.
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:09 PM   #98
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Not to divert this thread, but how do the youngsters refer to the act of opening/lowering a car window?

Do you refer to it as "rolling" it down?
my wife says calls it "raising" the window down.

I correct her time and time again
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:13 PM   #99
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:14 PM   #100
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Absolutely. I wonder how many more people have to die from this bullshit before law enforcement starts treating it the same way.
I'm sure we will start seeing the posts from people soon stating how it all depends on how well you multitask.

I don't give a crap how well anyone multitasks. Using the cell, putting on makeup, eating, reading, etc should be against the law while operating a moving vehicle.
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:19 PM   #101
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I used to text while driving. In the early days of texting when you were using a tactile 0-9*# phone, it was easy to do without looking at the phone. When I for a long time used various Blackberry Curve series phones, it was still fairly easy to do whilst still looking at the road.

Nowadays, a touch screen makes this impossible, so I would only do it at a stoplight.

If this girl was trying to reach her phone and veered into oncoming traffic, it seems more like the careless and inexperienced teen driver is the problem than it was the phone.

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Old 09-06-2011, 06:22 PM   #102
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I'm sure we will start seeing the posts from people soon stating how it all depends on how well you multitask.

I don't give a crap how well anyone multitasks. Using the cell, putting on makeup, eating, reading, etc should be against the law while operating a moving vehicle.
Yeah, we've gone over this stuff here ad nauseum. My point has already been expressed before so I wont get into my rant.

It is a shame though PR's friend is a direct result in phone/texting use while driving.

People make stupid decisions everyday, some more than most. It's too bad a life is taken while someone was stupid.

You can make all kinds of laws preventing things like this, but you can't fix stupidity.
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:33 PM   #103
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:06 PM   #104
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I'm not aware of any laws regarding it here in NE. One problem is, unless you get into an accident because of it, it's going to be tough to enforce.
In Iowa there is a ban against texting but they can't pull you over for that. It has to be something else, then ask, Can I see your phone?

So in another words they don't want to enforce it. Stupid.
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