Peyton Manning will need to undergo another procedure on his neck

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Peyton Manning - QB - Colts John Michael Vincent of ESPN 1070 Indianapolis reports Peyton Manning will need to undergo another procedure on his neck.




@JMV1070JMV1070

Been told by multi sources that QB P Manning needs a 2nd neck procedure. Will remain out indefinitely.Called #colts and waiting on response.


amSchefterAdam Schefter

Filed to ESPN from @mortreport: Peyton Manning is being revaluated by several doctors bc of slow progress. No other procedure planned now.


mortreportChris Mortensen

Official: Sources say Manning had surgery this am - cervical fusion with 2-3 month minimum recovery.No word on whether he will be put on IR.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by chefsos

You know, I thought you were full of shit. So I poked around the Colts' schedules. I kind of used Thanksgiving as the arbitrary cutoff point. I don't have a clue whether there was snow or not, or even if it was actually cold for the late season games. So, FWIW:

Away games in cold weather cities 2002-2010, with the current divisional setups:

Before Thanksgiving- 19
After Thanksgiving- 9

If you go back through Manning's entire career (1998-2010) though, its:

Before T-day: 34
After T-day: 15

Not sure I buy into the conspiracy, but the (absolutely unofficial) numbers bear you out, I guess.

I'm not sure how much that means considering the majority of the NFL regular season is played before Thanksgiving.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by chefsos

You know, I thought you were full of shit. So I poked around the Colts' schedules. I kind of used Thanksgiving as the arbitrary cutoff point. I don't have a clue whether there was snow or not, or even if it was actually cold for the late season games. So, FWIW:

Away games in cold weather cities 2002-2010, with the current divisional setups:

Before Thanksgiving- 19
After Thanksgiving- 9

If you go back through Manning's entire career (1998-2010) though, its:

Before T-day: 34
After T-day: 15

Not sure I buy into the conspiracy, but the (absolutely unofficial) numbers bear you out, I guess.

There are generally 11-12 games before Thanksgiving and 4-5 after, so the percentage should be 75%/25% before/after, but it's actually 68/32 and 69/31.... so, no.

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by Gif Horse

I'd LOL if they resigned Garrard.

man I would boycott them at that point, and try to get all my fellow jax citizens to do the same. Can't support an organization after that. They can go to LA with that sh*t.

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by milkman

I blame Carl, Marty, Dick and Herman ****ing Edwards for those playoff losses to Manning and the Colts.

I actually like Peyton Manning, and absolutely think he's one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game.

What irks me is the myth propogated that he's the greatest ever.

The greatest ever makes big plays in big moments in the games that count the most, and Manning has only done that once in his career, in the '06 playoffs against an already declining Patriot defense.

I would say that he's not the greatest ever because of the points you make here. Still, when he's on I've never seen someone make the throws he can make.

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I'm not sure how much that means considering the majority of the NFL regular season is played before Thanksgiving.

Originally Posted by Bearcat

There are generally 11-12 games before Thanksgiving and 4-5 after, so the percentage should be 75%/25% before/after, but it's actually 68/32 and 69/31.... so, no.

These, and, as it's already been stated in this thread, division games are played later in the year so he's more likely to be in warm weather cities, especially once they were out of NE's division.

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

There are generally 11-12 games before Thanksgiving and 4-5 after, so the percentage should be 75%/25% before/after, but it's actually 68/32 and 69/31.... so, no.

15 Colts games played in Cold Weather Stadiums after Thanksgiving in 12 years (Mannings career). That's 1.25 per year. Anyone who argues that's not below average compared to the rest of the league is admitting to be full of sh*t. Yeah, i know, he plays in a dome, it's only natural, but still... 15 in 12 years....

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

These, and, as it's already been stated in this thread, division games are played later in the year so he's more likely to be in warm weather cities, especially once they were out of NE's division.

Must be nice!

[chefsos]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I'm not sure how much that means considering the majority of the NFL regular season is played before Thanksgiving.

Originally Posted by Bearcat

There are generally 11-12 games before Thanksgiving and 4-5 after, so the percentage should be 75%/25% before/after, but it's actually 68/32 and 69/31.... so, no.

Yeah, well...yeah.

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

Must be nice!

I know! I just want to see the magic weather machine the NFL engineered to make Houston and Jacksonville's weather so pleasant! Is there anything they can't do?

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

15 Colts games played in Cold Weather Stadiums after Thanksgiving in 12 years (Mannings career). That's 1.25 per year. Anyone who argues that's not below average compared to the rest of the league is admitting to be full of sh*t. Yeah, i know, he plays in a dome, it's only natural, but still... 15 in 12 years....

You can say shit without censoring it.

shit shit shit shit

See, all the letters are showing. And I won't get banned for it.

[Bugeater]

And I wonder how many outdoor games in cold weather cities Atlanta has played in the same timeframe.

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

I know! I just want to see the magic weather machine the NFL engineered to make Houston and Jacksonville's weather so pleasant! Is there anything they can't do?

15 games in Cold Weather Stadiums after thanksgiving in 12 years. a Colts fan admitting his greatest snow game of all time was against the 4-11 Bills while playing for nothing since they were already locked into their seed. I didn't enjoy admitting Peyton was one of the best ever to play the game,
but you guys gave me some serious Anti Peyton ammunition tonight. the tradeoff was well worth it.

He may not be able to control where he plays and when, but you have to admit his stats would not be nearly as high if he played in Foxboro like Brady or Lambeau like Favre. You and all the other Manning fans know it. He's still great, don't get me wrong. But not nearly as great as others.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

15 Colts games played in Cold Weather Stadiums after Thanksgiving in 12 years (Mannings career). That's 1.25 per year. Anyone who argues that's not below average compared to the rest of the league is admitting to be full of sh*t. Yeah, i know, he plays in a dome, it's only natural, but still... 15 in 12 years....

4 games after Thanksgiving per year... over time it probably averages out to 2 home and 2 away.... so, 1.25/2 (62.5%) in cold weather stadiums and 0.75/2 (37.5%) in warm weather.

That doesn't seem to support your conspiracy, especially considering he plays in the AFC South, and the NFL tends to play divisional games in December.

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

15 games in Cold Weather Stadiums after thanksgiving in 12 years. a Colts fan admitting his greatest snow game of all time was against the 4-11 Bills while playing for nothing since they were already locked into their seed. I didn't enjoy admitting Peyton was one of the best ever to play the game,
but you guys gave me some serious Anti Peyton ammunition tonight. the tradeoff was well worth it.

He may not be able to control where he plays and when, but you have to admit his stats would not be nearly as high if he played in Foxboro like Brady or Lambeau like Favre. You and all the other Manning fans know it. He's still great, don't get me wrong. But not nearly as great as others.

Yeah, but he might have won more if he was constantly playing with the home field advantage Brady and Favre had. PLUS, most of Peyton's late season games were meaningless, because they win so many goddamn games. MUST BE A CONSPIRACY.

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

4 games after Thanksgiving per year... over time it probably averages out to 2 home and 2 away.... so, 1.25/2 (62.5%) in cold weather stadiums and 0.75/2 (37.5%) in warm weather.

That doesn't seem to support your conspiracy, especially considering he plays in the AFC South, and the NFL tends to play divisional games in December.

remember they moved the schedule back a week in 05 or 06 so it;s actually 5 sometimes 6 depending on the year.

and he used to play with the Bills and patriots and jets, before he was conveinently moved in 02. not trying to support a conspiracy just sayin