Peyton Manning will need to undergo another procedure on his neck

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

No, one does have something to do with the other. It's pretty ****ing comical to watch Chiefs fans call out someone for being a playoff choker when their team can't even get to the playoffs to begin with. When you make the playoffs every damn year, you're going to lose playoff games.

Again, this has nothing to do with Manning being a playoff choker. He's 9-10. Take a look at where his winning percentage puts him among the game's elite QBs. He's a choking dog, and I'm not a Chiefs fan.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Again, this has nothing to do with Manning being a playoff choker. He's 9-10. Take a look at where his winning percentage puts him among the game's elite QBs. He's a choking dog, and I'm not a Chiefs fan.

Well you're entitled to your opinion, but if that's how you feel don't ever let me catch you dropping the "bad calls are part of football and you have to play through them" line that I hear so often. And I know you're not a Chiefs fan, but the majority of those who are placing that label on him are.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Well you're entitled to your opinion, but if that's how you feel don't ever let me catch you dropping the "bad calls are part of football and you have to play through them" line that I hear so often. And I know you're not a Chiefs fan, but the majority of those who are placing that label on him are.

Manning is 9-10. Take a look at what other top QBs have done in the playoffs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_sta...layoff_records

He's a dog in the postseason.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Manning is 9-10. Take a look at what other top QBs have done in the playoffs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_sta...layoff_records

He's a dog in the postseason.

Ok, you win. He sucks.

[GordonGekko]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Manning is 9-10. Take a look at what other top QBs have done in the playoffs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_sta...layoff_records

He's a dog in the postseason.

I guess the summation here is Terry Bradshaw is better at QB than Peyton Manning.. . . . and Bradshaw is > Steve Young.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by GordonGekko

I guess the summation here is Terry Bradshaw is better at QB than Peyton Manning.. . . . and Bradshaw is > Steve Young.

Terry Bradshaw is the most underrated QB that I've ever seen, unless it's Bart Starr.

[GordonGekko]

Originally Posted by milkman

Terry Bradshaw is the most underrated QB that I've ever seen, unless it's Bart Starr.

Underrated probably, 4 SB's is definitely not a coincidence. He was 4 for 4, too. Yet no where near P. Manning or Steve Young in terms of the position.

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Manning is 9-10. Take a look at what other top QBs have done in the playoffs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_sta...layoff_records

He's a dog in the postseason.

great link, thanks. can't believe Favre's playoff record is 2 games above .500, that's amazing.

Guess I need to put Favre ahead of Manning now too, he'll still be lower than Brady and Montana, but definitely higher than Peyton.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

great link, thanks. can't believe Favre's playoff record is 2 games above .500, that's amazing.

Guess I need to put Favre ahead of Manning now too, he'll still be lower than Brady and Montana, but definitely higher than Peyton.

If you take the top 20 QBs of all time, Marino and Manning have to be in the running for worst playoff QBs, probably in that order.

[GordonGekko]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

If you take the top 20 QBs of all time, Marino and Manning have to be in the running for worst playoff QBs, probably in that order.

Lol?

Why are you lumping Marino and Manning together?

Philip Rivers and Marino are a much more rational pairing.

Manning and Steve Young fit more closely. Both have a SB where they were the starters for their team, and definitely should have won more in their careers. (Steve Young has 3 SB's but 2 as backup)

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by GordonGekko

Lol?

Why are you lumping Marino and Manning together?

Philip Rivers and Marino are a much more rational pairing.

Manning and Steve Young fit more closely. Both have a SB where they were the starters for their team, and definitely should have won more in their careers. (Steve Young has 3 SB's but 2 as backup)

Rivers is not a top 20 all-time QB, and Manning is nothing like a match to Young in the playoffs. He's Marino II.