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['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

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Yeah, because evening out a good year injury-wise is to have season-ending injuries to two if not three of the top five (top three?) players on the team. Oh, and to have them VERY early in the season.




The top of the draft that year has been pretty damn mediocre overall. You can argue for Sanchez, of course, but I'm not sure how many pro bowls the entire top of that draft has been to. It wasn't only the Chiefs struggling to make a good choice high in that draft.

Raji's been the only real stud out of teh top 10. So far, Sanchez isn't in that category yet due to pedestrian numbers in the regular season, and Stafford can't stay on the field enough. We'll see where those two go, of course...

Just sayin'.


1 Lions Matthew Stafford QB
2 Rams Jason Smith OT
3 Chiefs Tyson Jackson DE
4 Seahawks Aaron Curry OLB
5 Jets Mark Sanchez QB
6 Bengals Andre Smith OT
7 Raiders Darrius Heyward-Bey WR
8 Jaguars Eugene Monroe OT
9 Packers B.J. Raji DT
10 49ers Michael Crabtree WR
11 Bills Aaron Maybin DE
12 Broncos Knowshon Moreno RB
13 Redskins Brian Orakpo DE
14 Saints Malcolm Jenkins CB
15 Texans Brian Cushing OLB
16 Chargers Larry English DE
17 Buccaneers Josh Freeman QB
18 Broncos Robert Ayers LB
19 Eagles Jeremy Maclin WR
20 Lions Brandon Pettigrew TE
21 Browns Alex Mack C
22 Vikings Percy Harvin WR
23 Ravens Michael Oher OT
24 Falcons Peria Jerry DT
25 Dolphins Vontae Davis CB
26 Packers Clay Matthews OLB
27 Colts Donald Brown RB
28 Bills Eric Wood C
29 Giants Hakeem Nicks WR
30 Titans Kenny Britt WR
31 Cardinals Chris Wells RB
32 Steelers Evander Hood DT

1) Moeaki was not one of the five best players on the team, and definitely not top 3. In fact, he'd had a horrible preseason. Charles and Berry, yeah, that's a killer, but teams get decimated by injuries sometimes (Green Bay)

2) Your claim about the top of the draft lacking weight would have more merit had we drafted someone who was considered a prospect worthy of the top of the draft at that time. Sadly, we picked a guy who was around the 15-20th best prospect and paid him #3 money at a position of moderate impact.

If you are moving to a 3-4 and you want defense to be that first pick, it's not like Orakpo and Raji weren't considered better prospects than Jackson, they undoubtedly were. They also play more important positions to the defense. Clay Matthews was in the same realm as Tyson Jackson; mid-late first rounder.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

1) Moeaki was not one of the five best players on the team, and definitely not top 3. In fact, he'd had a horrible preseason. Charles and Berry, yeah, that's a killer, but teams get decimated by injuries sometimes (Green Bay)

I thought he was based on the (over?) reactions around here when he went out, but I dont' pretend to knwo the Chiefs' roster that well. Fine, put him aside -- I'm not sure you have a better defensive player than Berry, or a better offensive one than Charles, so it's still really freaking devastating to lose those two.

But yes, injuries are part of the game, and no injury can excuse the two blowouts the Chiefs have suffered.

2) Your claim about the top of the draft lacking weight would have more merit had we drafted someone who was considered a prospect worthy of the top of the draft at that time. Sadly, we picked a guy who was around the 15-20th best prospect and paid him #3 money at a position of moderate impact.

I agree to an extent. I acknowledge that many, including many on here, thought Jackson was taken far too highly even when he was taken. The issue is, when you look at the entire top 10+, is you can see how teams were clearly struggling to judge the value of these guys in a relatively weak draft class. Or, at least, a "weak at the top" draft class.

If you are moving to a 3-4 and you want defense to be that first pick, it's not like Orakpo and Raji weren't considered better prospects than Jackson, they undoubtedly were. They also play more important positions to the defense. Clay Matthews was in the same realm as Tyson Jackson; mid-late first rounder.

Well, Raji went 9 and Orakpo went 13th, so others in the top 10 weren't thinking they'd be superstars either, apparently, by and large. Looking back now, obviously you'd take a Raji, Orakpo or Matthews. But Matthews went 26th for chrissakes, and the Patriots traded OUT of that spot, sliding back to take the now-cut Darius Butler (kill me now), so it's fair to say not many thought he'd be the second-coming back when the draft was going on.

Kudos to the Packers. They KILLED that draft, which paved the path to their SB last year.