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Old 12-01-2011, 09:14 PM  
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Old 12-02-2011, 01:21 PM   #61
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Next BossChief is going to tell us how he's cooled off on Andrew Luck too because he's been a little bumpy lately.
Not a chance.

Let me put it this way....

If we are sitting at 2nd overall, I would STILL trade a boatload to trade up with Indy to draft Luck.

IMO Luck gives you the best of both worlds and is clearly the best prospect in this class and its not a 1a and 1b situation that some are making it out to be.
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I disagree. RGIII's arm/throwing motion isn't the thing that needs correcting. It's his knowledge of operating a pro offense.

That's something that he will have no problems picking up, as smart as he is. The footwork, the understanding of the pocket, everything. He's already taking snaps under center. He's already used to understanding coverages. I think it will take some time, sure, but there's absolutely no reason why an NFL offense should have to go Tyler Thigpen/Tim Tebow for him.
Im not saying that at all and I agree that his learning curve will likely be smaller than some might think... but if we are gonna maximize his immense potential, we need to run an offense that utilizes aall of his strengths and Im not sure his frame could handle the amount of abuse it would endue year in and year out.

Keep inmind, this is coming form a guy that would do almost anything to draft a real franchise quarterback....Im just not gonna cover my eyes and plug my ears and think that he would be coming in with a lot of experience in running an offense that resembles what he would be asked to do in the NFL if we are to have a chance at winning a championship with him.
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Old 12-02-2011, 01:22 PM   #62
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nah, I'm in the 'not-spending-30-years-making-up-excuses-to-not-draft-a-qb" camp....
Exactly, you can find some type of fault in any QB.
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Why? The School does a great job recruiting 5 star recruits and coaching them up so they get drafted in the NFL. They churn out NFL QBs.
Lane Kiffin is a great coach?
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I seriously question his ability to sustain a long and productive career as a quarterback in this league.

His skill set and playing style is fairly similar to Randall Cunninghams and RC only started 135 games out of the 256 games played during his career.
I think this is a legitimate concern if RG3 was just another Michael Vick running QB who takes hits.

Those type of guys almost always get hurt.

But I've seen enough of his games this year where I see him playing smart and sliding most of the time. This is huge and why I think he's different.
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Old 12-02-2011, 01:27 PM   #65
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Exactly, you can find some type of fault in any QB.
So you can't talk about things you perceive as faults?
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So you can't talk about things you perceive as faults?
Sure, you just shouldn't exaggerate them to the joint of making an excuse to pass on a quality QB to take a RT.
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Old 12-02-2011, 01:29 PM   #67
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Sure, you just shouldn't exaggerate them to the joint of making an excuse to pass on a quality QB to take a RT.
Who said that?
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Exactly, you can find some type of fault in any QB.
true, but you also have to acknowledge that a lot of the concerns with the big name quarterbacks seem to be legit concerns for them as NFL quarterbacks, as well.
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I think this is a legitimate concern if RG3 was just another Michael Vick running QB who takes hits.

Those type of guys almost always get hurt.

But I've seen enough of his games this year where I see him playing smart and sliding most of the time. This is huge and why I think he's different.
You have a valid point there, as I have mentioned it a few times as well. The kid is very smart and seems to know how to protect himself...but the NFL is quite different than college. Players are bigger and faster across the board and if he is gonna be used to pick up yardage with his legs a couple times a game, he is gonna get hit and that is a concern as to his long term future.

Ill say it again, he is built similarly to Randall and plays similarly to him, as well. Randall missed almost half the games as a pro.

Would I be excited if we drafted him?

ABSOLUTELY

Would I be surprised if some of the concerns I have with him show their face during his career in the NFL?

Not at all.
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we can't draft Barkley because...wait for it...he's from USC


really deep analysis of his faults here...plus, he admitted in an interview that he expects to be paid for playing professional football....STRIKE TWO MR. BARKLEY, I SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOU


and we can't draft RGIII because black QBs get injured in the nfl...wait, I meant to say because option QBs get injured...wait, he doesn't run an option offense, I meant to say because black QBs get injured in the NFL...plus no good pro QBs have ever come out of Baylor, so none ever will; just like the fact that some USC QBs failed means that all will in the future..
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Who said that?
nobody here would defend a move like that.

Im one of the biggest Iowa fans on here and I would want to burn Arrowhead to the ground if we pass on any of the top 4 or 5 quarterbacks for Riley Reiff.
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Show me where the **** I said that, moron.
Wrong guy in the thread. My bad.
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You and Molitoth.
Show me where I said I'd pass on Barkley for a tackle.
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we can't draft Barkley because...wait for it...he's from USC


really deep analysis of his faults here...plus, he admitted in an interview that he expects to be paid for playing professional football....STRIKE TWO MR. BARKLEY, I SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOU


and we can't draft RGIII because black QBs get injured in the nfl...wait, I meant to say because option QBs get injured...wait, he doesn't run an option offense, I meant to say because black QBs get injured in the NFL...plus no good pro QBs have ever come out of Baylor, so none ever will; just like the fact that some USC QBs failed means that all will in the future..
Everyone here wants us to draft a quarterback.

Nothing wrong wiith talking about each of their faults.

As far as Barkley goes, he has his faults, too.

1) his arm is good, but nothing special.

2) he had a tendency to be a Jekyll or Hyde type player. Great one half of the game and poor the other half.

3) He forces throws. Even though he cut back on this as a senior, the way he did it in his other years makes it a legit thing to watch for.

4) he plays in California and hasnt really had to deal with much bad weather....bad weather he would be facing every year as a Chiefs quarterback.

Do any of those make me turn my head and look elsewhere if he is there when we pick? **** NO.....would I be surprised if any or all of these are serious concerns for him as a pro? Not a bit.

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There is NOTHING wrong with talking about a players deficiencies and getting everything out in the open to try and come to a consensus, of sorts, on who we think would be the best fit for us.
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