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Old 12-02-2011, 12:25 PM  
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:34 AM   #106
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:36 AM   #107
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I loved Frank White in the booth. Plus they would bring in some older baseball players from around MLB and have great conversations of yesteryear.

Frank was the Man i'm telling you. As a bonus he caught a foulball in the broadcast booth during a game this year.
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:42 AM   #108
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Old 12-03-2011, 06:10 AM   #109
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:41 AM   #110
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This is not a huge mystery. Frank White was let go because he was not a good broadcaster.
I tend to think that you're probably right. And in the truest sense of the word, he WAS a pretty poor broadcaster. Not a great orator and his delivery didn't make him overly compelling.

What's apparently lost on FSM and the Royals is that the majority of fans don't care that he's not a great orator. We love Frank because he did so much for the organization and he's pretty widely regarded as a genuine, friendly person. That makes up for any lack of polish he may have had. And I really enjoyed his takes on the intricacies of baseball.
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:44 AM   #111
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:46 AM   #112
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I tend to think that you're probably right. And in the truest sense of the word, he WAS a pretty poor broadcaster. Not a great orator and his delivery didn't make him overly compelling.

What's apparently lost on FSM and the Royals is that the majority of fans don't care that he's not a great orator. We love Frank because he did so much for the organization and he's pretty widely regarded as a genuine, friendly person. That makes up for any lack of polish he may have had. And I really enjoyed his takes on the intricacies of baseball.
EXACTLY!

What team was he covering? The Royals
Who was his audience? Royals fans
What do Royals fans think of Frank? The LOVE him!

That's all that needs to be said. Someone ****ed this up in a major way. It's not like people were calling in saying, "I love Frank but he has to get out of the booth." Royals fans loved seeing him calling the games and listening to him.
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:54 AM   #113
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Looks like the Royals facebook page took down all the people ranting about Frank getting the boot.
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Old 12-03-2011, 09:18 AM   #114
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This is not a huge mystery. Frank White was let go because he was not a good broadcaster.

With Ryan apparently going back to radio, everyone involved with the TV broadcast has been cleared out of there. If he had been a AAA broadcaster brought up to audition for a year or two, no one would blink at his contract not being renewed, and more than a few would be happy about it. Say what you want about "well thats fine, but you dont treat a legend this way", but I mute the TV and listen to the radio. If the Royals get better, their local broadcast will start to get picked up and Fox probably doesn't want it to sound like amateur hour.

Frank White was a great player and all that, but he took this too personally and threw a fit. If he wants to stomp off to go look for someone to blame rather than recognizing that he wasn't cut out for the job, then fine, but this will have absolutely no impact on me whatsoever.
Spot on.

I love Frank. He was my favorite player as a kid. His knowlege of the game is great, but he was not a professional broadcaster. The constant giggling during the game got really annoying. If he would have put the effort into it someone like Splitt did, I think he could have been fantastic. But he didn't, and he's gone. I honestly don't have a problem with it at all.
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Old 12-03-2011, 09:23 AM   #115
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Dayton Moore is a spineless prick looking for yes men in the clubhouse and broadcast booth. Frank White carried enough water for this lame franchise that he should be given the keys and asked how he wants things run.
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Old 12-03-2011, 09:36 AM   #116
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As for this whole "too negative" line, that sounds like a load of crap to me. Frank was not that critical or negative against the organization, especially compared to Split, who never got a backlash or anything for his often-harsh words aside from respect.

If Frank says that is how things went down, then I'll believe that is what the regional Fox Sports head told him, but I think they did not have the heart or the guts to just flat-out tell him that he was a pretty bad broadcaster, and that he hung around this long only because of his history with the team.
Yeah, I agree with your takes for the most part.

The team hasn't dealt with Frank White historically the way they should have. That predates Dayton Moore. And call me crazy, but I don't believe Dayton Moore was making the decision in this case either.

They shouldn't have done many of the things they have done to White over the years. But he isn't entitled to a job as a big league manager and he isn't entitled to this either. That's life.

The team should be mending this fence. He should be working for the organization in some capacity as long as he wants to. I don't think they are wrong in looking for new broadcasters.

I never really enjoyed Davis, and I don't think White was as good as Davis. I think it's a good move for Denny and Ryan to be on the radio and a new TV crew be found.

White can certainly gripe about the team's lack of respect for him, but I don't think he's been wronged about the broadcasting job.
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Old 12-03-2011, 09:38 AM   #117
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I tend to think that you're probably right. And in the truest sense of the word, he WAS a pretty poor broadcaster. Not a great orator and his delivery didn't make him overly compelling.

What's apparently lost on FSM and the Royals is that the majority of fans don't care that he's not a great orator. We love Frank because he did so much for the organization and he's pretty widely regarded as a genuine, friendly person. That makes up for any lack of polish he may have had. And I really enjoyed his takes on the intricacies of baseball.
I'm not sure that being a great orator is a must anymore. Look at the NFL and all you see are analysts. I'm left with the impression that most people are wanting ex-players doing the talking and not somebody who have a degree in journalism/broadcast telling them about the sport... Otherwise we'd have a love fewer Shannon Sharps and Neon Dion Sanders, and a lot more Joe Bucks.... And in the case of a struggling team, the "fans" want to here somebody talk who can tell them what's wrong, not another, "we'll get them next time" goof-ball saying night after night. But if you own a team that has not plans to fix it, then the latter is a must. You need people who spread false sunshine and you squash reality....

Glass wants BS sunshine... Look at Wal-Mart ads then go into most Wal-Marts.....see a difference? He's brought that to Royals base ball...
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I'm not sure that being a great orator is a must anymore. Look at the NFL and all you see are analysts. I'm left with the impression that most people are wanting ex-players doing the talking and not somebody who have a degree in journalism/broadcast telling them about the sport... Otherwise we'd have a love fewer Shannon Sharps and Neon Dion Sanders, and a lot more Joe Bucks.... And in the case of a struggling team, the "fans" want to here somebody talk who can tell them what's wrong, not another, "we'll get them next time" goof-ball saying night after night. But if you own a team that has not plans to fix it, then the latter is a must. You need people who spread false sunshine and you squash reality....

Glass wants BS sunshine... Look at Wal-Mart ads then go into most Wal-Marts.....see a difference? He's brought that to Royals base ball...
You know you are reading a really dumb Royals take when the Wal-Mart stuff comes out.
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Old 12-03-2011, 09:44 AM   #119
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The team should be mending this fence. He should be working for the organization in some capacity as long as he wants to. I don't think they are wrong in looking for new broadcasters.
He WAS working for the organization in Public Relations. Last January they approached him and told him they were cutting his pay by 66% because they thought his increased broadcasting duties were taking too much of his time. He walked instead of taking the pay cut.
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You know you are reading a really dumb Royals take when the Wal-Mart stuff comes out.
LOL, the guy ran Wal-Mart and is anti-spending, and you think it's not part of his ownership make-up... Your not thinking it's part of it points to your cluelessness... Call it "cheap", call if frugal, whatever it is, he's a Scrooge and it's part of what's going on..
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