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Old 12-05-2011, 08:36 PM  
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Ndamukong Suh in car crash

Dec 05, 2011
Portland TV station alleges disturbing details in Suh crash
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By Nate Davis, USA TODAY
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Ndamukong Suh's public image continues to take a beating even though he's on an unpaid vacation from the Detroit Lions.

CAPTIONBy Jim Z. Rider, US Presswire

The all-pro defensive tackle was in a one-car accident early Saturday morning in his hometown of Portland, Ore., while serving a two-game suspension from the NFL. Initial reports indicated he and his two passengers were fine after his vintage 1970 Chevrolet Coupe hit a tree downtown.

But a report from Portland's NewsChannel 8 suggests that's not entirely accurate.

A third passenger was apparently in the vehicle while two of them have come forward to amend their statements to police.

"When the light turned green, he floored it," one of them told KGW regarding Suh's driving. "I just remember going so fast and it was violent and just getting thrown around like rag dolls."

The revised police report says two passengers were hospitalized for various cuts and bruises and one was seriously hurt even though Suh initially told 911 callers everyone was fine.

None of the passengers wanted their names publicly disclosed.

"He was driving too fast and reckless all the time. There was never a taxi (involved in the accident). He was just going too fast and he could have killed someone," said one of the passengers in the police report while also claiming Suh was more concerned about protecting his image than aiding his passengers.

Here is a transcript of Suh's call to 911:

Operator: "911."
Suh: "Yes, I just got into an accident off of Ankeny and 4th."
Operator: "Do you need an ambulance?"
Suh: "No, I don't think so. I think everybody's fine."
Operator: "We have other calls about this. Hold on a second here."
Suh: "OK."
Operator: "We have reports it's a car into a tree. Is that you?"
Suh: "Yes."
Operator: "OK, are you sure you don't need an ambulance?"
Suh: "Yes, everybody's fine."
Operator: "OK, and were you in the car that hit the tree?"
Suh: "I'm the driver, I'm the driver, I'm the driver."
Operator: "I'll let them know you're refusing emergency — excuse me, medics. Hold on just a second."
Suh: "Officer! Officer! Officer!"
Operator: "He's looking for you. I'll let him know you're at 4th and Ankeny. What's your name?"
Suh: "Suh is the last name: S-U-H. (To officer) How you doing? I slipped off the (indiscernible) when I was coming out. (To operator) Say that again."
Operator: "Just your first name and your phone number, sir."
Suh: "N-D-A-M-U-K-O-N-G."
Operator: "Thank you. What's the phone number for you, please?"
Suh: (Withheld).
Operator: "Thank you very much, sir."
Suh: "Thank you."

Suh served the first half of his suspension Sunday night. After a series of flagrant fouls over his first 27 games, he was punished after stomping on Packers G Evan Dietrich-Smith during the Lions' Thanksgiving Day loss.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:04 PM   #76
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BTW, far too many people underestimate the power these cars have. It's like they watch too many movies and think they can just stomp the gas and the car is going to rocket in a straight line.

It never works out that way. Hell, i've broken the back end lose on my Bird w/o even trying. RWD Muscle cars do require SOME skill to drive.
Yup.

Sounds like a stupid driver more than a sociopath. You can break the back end loose on something like that very very easily. I've done it powering down too hard on a lane change before.

Sounds like a guy that didn't feel like getting stuck at a red, tried to smash it through a yellow and lost the back end; shit happens.

I think he's a dickhead and a punk, but this incident isn't terribly demonstrative of that. Next time he should probably just buy himself a modern sports car with launch assist and traction control; then these things won't happen.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:04 PM   #77
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Dude. Chill. I just think it's interesting that he is obviously intelligent, did very well in school and pretty much stayed out of trouble. He didn't do anything stupid but he's had these two accidents that are (probably) just young guy mistakes, but he's also been behaving abnormally on the field as well. Maybe he's just a young man who is having a hard time with success, maybe shit's gone to his head, or maybe he's got some other problems.

I'm a big Suh fan and I'd take him on my team in a heartbeat. It's just that he doesn't seem like the same guy. Maybe that's just him going through growing pains.
In other words you don't like him because he is black.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:05 PM   #78
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:09 PM   #79
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Please stop watching "The Program".
What program is that? I have no idea what you are referring to.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:12 PM   #81
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What program is that? I have no idea what you are referring to.
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One of the greatest movies EVER!
I must watch it then, be back shortly.


But in all seriousness, he does exhibit what one might call "rage" on the field. Doesn't always stop at the whistle and almost seems to take his job personally. I don't see how "roid rage" wouldn't be suspect.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:17 PM   #83
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But in all seriousness, he does exhibit what one might call "rage" on the field. Doesn't always stop at the whistle and almost seems to take his job personally. I don't see how "roid rage" wouldn't be suspect.
Nah, all black people are like that. It's in their blood. /Frankie
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I had plenty of experience with them, and let my 4 speed GTX (440) get away from me one time. It went around in a complete circle then hit the curb, never found the beauty rings off the front wheels.
Heh, I did that in my Gran Torino, except it bounced up when it hit the curb and landed on a hedge with all four wheels off the ground.

I blame the 'roids.
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What program is that? I have no idea what you are referring to.
You are either really old (like Milkman old) or really young if you haven't seen it. It was all the craze among football players/fans when I was a kid.

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Old 12-06-2011, 01:35 PM   #86
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Nah, all black people are like that. It's in their blood. /Frankie
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Heh, I did that in my Gran Torino, except it bounced up when it hit the curb and landed on a hedge with all four wheels off the ground.

I blame the 'roids.
LOL, the rush you get when that happens may be similar. Mine bent the drag link, and the "toe in" was rather extreme.

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You are either really old (like Milkman old) or really young if you haven't seen it. It was all the craze among football players/fans when I was a kid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Program
Thanks for the link, that show does kind of ring a bell.
Old is relative, but milkman is my junior when it comes to age.
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LOL, the rush you get when that happens may be similar. Mine bent the drag link, and the "toe in" was rather extreme.
I busted a wheel but it was drivable. The second worse thing was putting up with the smart ass tow truck driver ("that's one hell of a job of parallel parking you did there"). The worst was that my dad made me sell the car and start driving my bug.
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I busted a wheel but it was drivable. The second worse thing was putting up with the smart ass tow truck driver ("that's one hell of a job of parallel parking you did there"). The worst was that my dad made me sell the car and start driving my bug.
What motor did the Torino have? I mis spoke on mine, as it was toed out, and was squealing like crazy when I drove it home 50 miles.
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What motor did the Torino have? I mis spoke on mine, as it was toed out, and was squealing like crazy when I drove it home 50 miles.
Just a 351W. Part of the 180 was probably shitty tires.
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Is there anyone here who would not want Suh on their team right now? No special conditions, no therapy, etc. As is, where is.

Anyone not want him?
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