Suicide?

[Brianfo]

Have you ever contemplated suicide? I have, I think about it everyday. I think my kids and wife would be better off without me. My wife is an absolute angel. She did not deserve to be stuck with me. I know that it's the right thing to do. But it's cowardly. I know for a fact that I am going to hell. I love my kids and wife so much, but I have not been a good father.

[blaise]

We can second guess this all we want, but hindsight is 50/50.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I think about suicide everyday also.

But I just can't get the wife to do it.

[notorious]

Good work, Phobia, Lumpy, and Fax.



If he was serious, at least it was pushed to the point where he can begin to face his problem and heal.

If it was fake, he got exactly what he deserves. I had nightmares during the 10 minutes of sleep I actually managed last night.

[Iowanian]

It's better to have someone pissed off because you cared enough to try than have them dead because you didn't care enough to try.


also, there are some immature and stupid sonnabitches on this site. There are times to be an ahole and times to holster those typing fingers.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by notorious

If he was serious, at least it was pushed to the point where he can begin to face his problem and heal.

If it was fake, he got exactly what he deserves.

Exactly

You hit the nail on the head.

[scho63]

For whatever reason, maybe the anonymity of this board made him feel like he could reach out for help rather than the embarrassment or shame of talking to someone he knows. Maybe he doesn't have any close friends.

Men tend to have extreme difficulty asking for help in these moments and so many times people are stunned when someone they know kills themselves and they said nothing to them or showed any signs.

Just the fact that at least 10 posters on this board, including me, know someone close to them that committed suicide or attempted suicide should demonstrate that this should be taken seriously.

Shame on some of you for making fun of this-there is no previous posts that suggest this guy is playing a joke.

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by MotherLover

He says he's thinking about suicide, says he has been for a while, lists reasons to support his beliefs, combine that with it being the holiday season and you have a recipe for disaster.

If anything at all it brought to a light the situation for his family to see. If it's out in the open then maybe he can get help.

The messed up thing is you denounce it as a bad move based on the same lack of information. Difference is Phil acted on the side of caution. Realistically, what could be the worst outcome of the cops banging on his door: at the least a minor inconvenience at the worst they pull him in and he gets help. Neither of which are bad things.

Now let's examine your philosophy of do nothing: the worst that could happen is he could be bleeding out on the carpet until his wife or kids find him.

When you compare the two the logic of Phil's decision speaks for itself.

I never said it was bad. I said quite clearly many times that it could go either way. And I don't have a do nothing philosophy. I just don't think the facts were known to warrant the PI work that was done. You have not been listening to my position at all. You've made the assumption that I don't care. I just don't have enough information to call the police to his house.

FWIW part of my everday job deals with crisis management with people.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

I think about suicide everyday also.

But I just can't get the wife to do it.

[Mr. Plow]

I'd rather call someone to help the guy and have him pissed then to not call and find out something horrible happened. Good call Phobia.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by RubberSponge

I never said it was bad. I said quite clearly many times that it could go either way. And I don't have a do nothing philosophy. I just don't think the facts were known to warrant the PI work that was done. You have not been listening to my position at all. You've made the assumption that I don't care. I just don't have enough information to call the police to his house.

FWIW part of my everday job deals with crisis management with people.

The problem being is that no further info was given. Therefore the responsible thing was done based on the information that was given.

I respect the fact that you work in crisis management and probably have more experience dealing with this than I. However, I still disagree with your position.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I'd rather call someone to help the guy and have him pissed then to not call and find out something horrible happened. Good call Phobia.

"I've been looking a raping this girl. She works with me. I don't want to but I just feel like I have to. I probably won't though."

You act then?

If someone acted on this they were justified.

[Fat Elvis]

Hopefully, the fact that some people felt that his life was worth saving will help him understand that his life is worth living.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Rausch

"I've been looking a raping this girl. She works with me. I don't want to but I just feel like I have to. I probably won't though."

You act then?

If someone acted on this they were justified.

Tell me what the police would do if you called in and said "X man told me he was thinking of raping Y woman." Would they arrest him? Would they even go and talk to him?

[Gonzo]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

also, there are some immature and stupid sonnabitches on this site. There are times to be an ahole and times to holster those typing fingers.

Yeah, but they never do...
It's like the filter from their brain to their mouth, (or in this case, their PC) is broken. They're always right there with some smart-assed reply for the shock value. There's no limit to said poster's stupidity sometimes.
They just have to make that joke.
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[KurtCobain]

I really thought/think this thread was done for shock value. It's his posting style.

Now that the scare is over however, to the subject at hand :

I think about it a lot. Seems like a good idea sometimes. And it's over the stupidest things. I wig out, and next thing I know I've torn up everything I own and I'm leaning over a bridge praying that I don't survive and break every bone in my body.

Sometimes trying and not succeeding helps. It seems like it wouldn't, you'd feel like even more of a failure, but it helps to know you've made it. I tried to hide it for a long time. Tried to kill myself with oxy or heroin at least five times, family just thought I was getting carried away, they never knew I was trying to die. And it just seemed like Heroin was the closest thing to dying without really being dead. So obviously it was the easiest method.

In anger I'd try to do it out of spite. One time at 16 I drove my car into the little horseshoe creek at top speed on I-70 hoping I'd die. When I regained consciousness, I found the entire car was crush around me, motor in the passenger seat. But I was soooo ****ing mad I was alive.

I tried with knives. But I just didn't have the balls to puncture the skin in the right places.

I've actually never told ANYONE I know besides but doctor this, but I've played Russian roulette with the barrel in my mouth two times.

Everytime I contemplate it in a fight, I would come to and realize I was just doing it for attention. And it makes me feel better to know I really didn't want to do it. And I'm thankful I didn't do anything stupid.

What's so crazy about this though, is if the brian thing is real, is that every since I've been sober and I think about that stuff I always plan on writing a suicide note on chiefs planet. My doctor says that means I'm really not serious about it anymore, and I just want attention from you guys who I sometimes feel your all I have.

I'm glad I've never made that post though. But whenever I sit on the bridge on winner and crysler, I wonder if you guys will know what happened to me. Isn't that ****ing pathetic?