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[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan

Which wouldn't make any ****ing sense when they need a playmaker, and improvements on the OL.

What would make no sense would be passing up on one of the most highly anticipated QB's in the history of the draft and letting the #2 team on the board pick or trade him.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by jd1020

What would make no sense would be passing up on one of the most highly anticipated QB's in the history of the draft and letting the #2 team on the board pick or trade him.

There's no point in drafting Luck. None. Bradford is and will be the franchise's QB for the long run.

They NEED to trade down even if they are in the top 3.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan

There's no point in drafting Luck. None. Bradford is and will be the franchise's QB for the long run.

They NEED to trade down even if they are in the top 3.

What about Bradford has shown you he's going to be a NFL franchise QB? He's sucked in the NFL. Stop going back on where he was drafted and start looking at his play on the field. I believe Tebow is the only QB in the league that is worse than Bradford right now.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by jd1020

What about Bradford has shown you he's going to be a NFL franchise QB? He's sucked in the NFL. Stop going back on where he was drafted and start looking at his play on the field. I believe Tebow is the only QB in the league that is worse than Bradford right now.

I'm going to defend Bradford until he stinks with a good team in front of him.

There isn't a good team in front of him. He has a mediocre-bad OL, terrible WRs.
Put almost any QB behind that line and he's dead.

Give Bradford a decent line, Blackmon and Amendola back, and we are in business.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan

I'm going to defend Bradford until he stinks with a good team in front of him.

There isn't a good team in front of him. He has a mediocre-bad OL, terrible WRs.
Put almost any QB behind that line and he's dead.

Give Bradford a decent line, Blackmon and Amendola back, and we are in business.

Peyton, Ben, and Rodgers all play behind shit OLines.

Why does a "franchise" QB all of a sudden need an all world team behind him when it's pretty much universal that the QB makes the offense?

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Peyton, Ben, and Rodgers all play behind shit OLines.

Big Ben has Pouncey.
Peyton has Saturday.
Rodgers has Clifton, Bulaga, Sherrod.

Not to mention all 3 have a play maker.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan

Big Ben has Pouncey.
Peyton has Saturday.
Rodgers has Clifton, Bulaga, Sherrod.

Not to mention all 3 have a play maker.

All injured.

And then 1 out of 5 guys for the other 2? Give me a break.

[Chiefaholic]

Originally Posted by jd1020

What about Bradford has shown you he's going to be a NFL franchise QB? He's sucked in the NFL. Stop going back on where he was drafted and start looking at his play on the field. I believe Tebow is the only QB in the league that is worse than Bradford right now.

Seriously? No way in hell do the Rams give up on Bradford already. They've invested too much into him financially to not give him the opportunity with more weapons to throw to and better pass protection. I have no doubt they'll debate different trade scenarios to trade down to pick up multiple picks in exchange. The Rams need loads of help, and Bradford is the least of their worries right now.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by jd1020

What would make no sense would be passing up on one of the most highly anticipated QB's in the history of the draft and letting the #2 team on the board pick or trade him.

It would make no sense to have Bradford and Luck on your roster at the same time. Your trade value for either one would go down....and the cap hit you would take to trade either one of them would **** you in the long run.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

It would make no sense to have Bradford and Luck on your roster at the same time. Your trade value for either one would go down....and the cap hit you would take to trade either one of them would **** you in the long run.

Just Bradford.

They won't get bombed by trading Luck; in fact I think they could trade his rights without signing him. But either way, he's coming in under the reasonable scale.

That's what makes Bradford so difficult to move; they'll get bombed by the cap-hit. He's getting paid Brady money and he's only 2 years into the deal. They're pretty much stuck with Bradford (though that's a 'stuck' I'd gladly take). As such, the only choice they really have is dealing that pick or gutting their team for a season to make dealing Bradford doable.

The good news is that the team that trades for Bradford doesn't have to pay the signing bonus or absorb the hit, so he's extremely tradeable, they just need to clear the cap space to do it.

It's not relevant, the Colts aren't winning another game and their SOS is worse than the Rams right now anyway.