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Old 01-05-2012, 02:12 AM   #1
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Let's look at the first ten years of other QBs of his era who had long careers.

Average season (and median on the QB rating):

Elway: 3,021 yards, 15.8 TDs, 15.8 Ints, QB Rating 74.6 (Best Year: 83.4)

Dan Marino: 3,950 yards, 29.0 TDs, 16.5 Ints, QB Rating 85.5 (Best Year: 108.9)

Jim Kelly: 3,266 yards, 22.3 TDs, 15.6 Ints, QB Rating 83.6 (Best Year: 101.2)

Neil Lomax (8 year career): 2,846 yards, 17.0 TDs, 11.3 Ints, QB Rating 83.1 (Best Year 92.5)

Jim Everett: 3,158 yards, 19.0 TDs, 15.5 Ints, QB Rating 79.8 (Best Year 90.6)

Randall Cunningham: 2,227 yards, 14.7 TDs, 10 Ints, QB Rating 76.6 (Best Year 91.6) (He didn't start as a rookie and missed nearly two other complete seasons, presumably due to injury.) In his seven full seasons (one of which he started only five games), he averaged 2,980 yards, 20.1 TDs, 12.4 Ints, and a QB Rating of 77.6.

Boomer Esiason: 2,909 yards, 19.0 TDs, 14.0 Ints, QB Rating 80.8 (Best Year 97.4)

Phil Simms: 2,574 yards, 15.8 TDs, 13.7 Ints, QB Rating 74.6 (Best Year 90.0) Missed two full seasons due to injury. In the eight full seasons, he averaged 2,881 yards, 17.8 TDs, 15.3 Ints, QB Rating 76.4.

So Elway wasn't as good as Neil Lomax or Jim Everett, using those two points of comparison. He was almost as good as Phil Simms, and wasn't in the same league as guys like Boomer Esiason, Randall Cunningham (injuries aside), Jim Kelly, or Dan Marino.
Those are some beautiful stats. I like this one though:

All 7 of the QBs you listed combined: 1 SB win
Elway: 2 SB wins
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:22 AM   #2
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Those are some beautiful stats. I like this one though:

All 7 of the QBs you listed combined: 1 SB win
Elway: 2 SB wins
Rain Man's Elway hate fetish runs deep. Stats only matter if they make Elway look bad.
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:57 AM   #3
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:33 AM   #4
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Did Elway have herpes? Cause Tebow does.


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Old 01-05-2012, 03:29 AM   #5
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Those are some beautiful stats. I like this one though:

All 7 of the QBs you listed combined: 1 SB win
Elway: 2 SB wins
Phil Simms won two Super Bowls, moron
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Phil Simms won two Super Bowls, moron
Simms was on two Super Bowl teams, only starting QB in one of them. Lost the job in injury to Hostettler.
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Phil Simms won two Super Bowls, moron
He did, but Hostetler was the QB for late regular season and the playoffs and the Super Bowl. Not Phil Sims.
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Phil Simms won two Super Bowls, moron
That has to be one of the most heroic SB stories of all time, in my opinion. Phil Simms winning a SB from the bench? I don't think there's any way that ever gets topped.
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Those are some beautiful stats. I like this one though:

All 7 of the QBs you listed combined: 1 SB win
Elway: 2 SB wins
They were cheating wins. Pam spray anyone?
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