Tim Tebow is John Elway

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Elway's annual rank in QB rating over the course of his career.

1983 - 27th
1984 - 17th
1985 - 17th
1986 - 11th
1987 - 12th
1988 - 18th
1989 - 17th
1990 - 14th
1991 - 19th
1992 - 20th
1993 - 3rd
1994 - 4th
1995 - 14th
1996 - 4th
1997 - 7th
1998 - 5th

Granted, from 1993 on he was productive, once new coaches arrived on the scene who recognized that he was more of a complementary player than a star to build around. Once they shifted the focus to other, better players, Elway did fine as a second banana type of quarterback.

You sure do think QB rating is the most important thing ever don't you?

So by your logic Cassel > Elway.

Solid logic. Not flawed at all.

I hate elway more than any player ever, and it's not because he was an average QB. I can't believe anyone could watch him play and say this nonsense. Elway could do things on a football field that nobody has done before or since.

[whoman69]

What hurt Elway early in his career is he relied too much on his gun arm, and frankly threw the ball so hard that his receivers couldn't catch it. He had no touch until late in his career. His completion percentages were pretty low until then. I'd compare him early on to Stafford.

[Bump]

Originally Posted by whoman69

What hurt Elway early in his career is he relied too much on his gun arm, and frankly threw the ball so hard that his receivers couldn't catch it. He had no touch until late in his career. His completion percentages were pretty low until then. I'd compare him early on to Stafford.

I remember them saying something about how broncos WR's had to really practice or have certain hands just so they could catch his balls

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Bump

I remember them saying something about how broncos WR's had to really practice or have certain hands just so they could catch his balls

Yeah, but throwing the ball hard and receivers talking about having the "Elway Cross" on their hands from catching the blazing passes isn't why the numbers were low.

It's a mix of the talent at WR/TE/RB and the offense called by Reeves. There are many reasons why Reeves and Shanahan clashed when he was working for Dan. There's a reason why Shanahan and Elway became such fans of each other and grew tired of Dan's game plans.

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

There's a reason why Shanahan and Elway became such fans of each other and grew tired of Dan's game plans.

They both realized Horseface would never take them to the Promised Land so they Demoted him and agreed getting Terrell Davis and promoting him to the Number One Offensive Option was the only way theyd win it?

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

They both realized Horseface would never take them to the Promised Land so they Demoted him and agreed getting Terrell Davis and promoting him to the Number One Offensive Option was the only way theyd win it?

Ha - yeah, that's exactly it...

[Bump]

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

They both realized Horseface would never take them to the Promised Land so they Demoted him and agreed getting Terrell Davis and promoting him to the Number One Offensive Option was the only way theyd win it?

ya, getting an undrafted (or late round, can't remember) RB was the big plan after all

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by Bump

ya, getting an undrafted (or late round, can't remember) RB was the big plan after all

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

....Cassel > Elway....

Good point.