Conversation between me and Clayton 11/05/07

[Hootie]

Eli Manning was a great, great QB this year and awesome.

Almost as awesome as he was in the postseason in 2007 when your Patriots went 18-1 and Thomas Brady played his worst game of the season in that 19th game...

but so funny you now compare Peyton's postseason shortcomings to Tom's as of late...

so you're saying a great QB can't win a title all by himself?!?! Sweet! That's what I've been saying for years!!

So now that we've gotten past that...how was it argued for years and years and years that Tom > Peyton because Tom won the big game...when in reality, Tom's team was winning the big games (as evidenced by the last 7 years) rather than the QB himself (who has become a much better QB since the Pats won their last Super Bowl)...

SO FOOTBALL REALLY IS A TEAM GAME! YOU DON'T SAY!

In short,

Peyton was clearly a superior QB back when Tom was winning Super Bowls. Since then, Tom caught up and they ended up being a toss up, Peyton won a Super Bowl since then, and Tom hasn't really won anything...

So career wise, Peyton was the better NFL QB, but in the later years, Tom certainly caught up...

I'm glad to see you finally admit that defense does matter and QB's don't single-handedly win games in the postseason. Good ones get you there every year, but once you weed out the pretenders and start the big tourney, COMPLETE TEAMS win, and often the hot teams go on runs (the Packers last year, the Giants in 2007, etc. etc.)

so the whole "Manning is a choker" theory is a bunch of bullshit, just like I said for years, and years, and years

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Short Leash Hootie

Eli Manning was a great, great QB this year and awesome.

Almost as awesome as he was in the postseason in 2007 when your Patriots went 18-1 and Thomas Brady played his worst game of the season in that 19th game...

but so funny you now compare Peyton's postseason shortcomings to Tom's as of late...

so you're saying a great QB can't win a title all by himself?!?! Sweet! That's what I've been saying for years!!

We all know that. At least, most of us know that. But Manning wasn't by himself. He had plenty of Pro Bowlers around him, especially on offense, but you can't see it because Manning's pubic hairs block your vision. Now we know it's not just Peyton, it's ANY Manning that you will gleefully deep throat. There's no explanation for it, it just is.


As for the rest of your rant, I'm not going to let you change topics to avoid how obviously stupid you're being in THIS thread. Frankly, if you're going to argue Eli = Roethlisberger and >>>> Rivers, then you've already done more than I ever could to prove that you've got some kind of weird obsession with the Mannings.