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Old 02-26-2012, 02:05 PM   #1
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Oh yeah whoever said Luck is comparable to Newton is reeruned. Cam wasn't even trying at the combine. Don't be reeruned, he knew for a fact he'd be #1 the overall pick and he is the type of person to not try because he knows he won't be punished for it.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:29 PM   #2
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Oh yeah whoever said Luck is comparable to Newton is reeruned. Cam wasn't even trying at the combine. Don't be reeruned, he knew for a fact he'd be #1 the overall pick and he is the type of person to not try because he knows he won't be punished for it.
Save my post.

Luck will have a better career than Newton.

I said it.

Suck it, bitch
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Old 02-26-2012, 10:53 PM   #3
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Oh yeah whoever said Luck is comparable to Newton is reeruned. Cam wasn't even trying at the combine. Don't be reeruned, he knew for a fact he'd be #1 the overall pick and he is the type of person to not try because he knows he won't be punished for it.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:16 PM   #4
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If Snyder is willing to do it, then that pretty much seals the fact it is a bad idea. Dude is a habitual bad decision maker.
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:06 PM   #5
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If Snyder is willing to do it, then that pretty much seals the fact it is a bad idea. Dude is a habitual bad decision maker.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:22 PM   #6
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The Chiefs are even more screwed if they give up and entire draft + some and the QB is a bust. All franchise QB's have a lot around them, something that typically doesn't happen if you don't have a draft.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:38 PM   #7
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I'd rather get draft picks by trading off a player(Carr)
Then getting a player by trading draft picks(RGIII)
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:13 PM   #8
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As bad as this team needs a franchise QB, theres no way you can justify blowing an entire draft and part of another on just one player.

He could turn out to be another Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell, or he could be a great player and get repeatedly injured ala Matt Stafford.

Not all of your greats come just in the first round. Sacrificing the ability to draft guys and solidify your team to take a roll of the dice on one guy is just not something any team serious about winning can take.

Theres always the chance the guy could be worth it, but the risk youre taking if youre wrong is just too big to recover from.
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:17 PM   #9
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As bad as this team needs a franchise QB, theres no way you can justify blowing an entire draft and part of another on just one player.

He could turn out to be another Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell, or he could be a great player and get repeatedly injured ala Matt Stafford.

Not all of your greats come just in the first round. Sacrificing the ability to draft guys and solidify your team to take a roll of the dice on one guy is just not something any team serious about winning can take.

Theres always the chance the guy could be worth it, but the risk youre taking if youre wrong is just too big to recover from.
Meh. I look at it like one elite QB can make an average team a Super Bowl team. Look back at the 09 draft we got two contributing players from tht draft and one was a kicker. We have the cap space to make up for the loss of some picks
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:40 PM   #10
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IF the Chiefs were to give up that much, fine.


Until you get that guy at qb, it's been shown that you are essentially spinning your wheels, hoping to get lucky to win a SB.

Ask yourself this, if the Chiefs gave up this whole draft and a first rounder next year and took RGIII, what are they really losing?

I would almost argue that a he would be more important to the Chiefs success over the next 10 or 12 years than all those picks combined.
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:07 PM   #11
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IF the Chiefs were to give up that much, fine.


Until you get that guy at qb, it's been shown that you are essentially spinning your wheels, hoping to get lucky to win a SB.

Ask yourself this, if the Chiefs gave up this whole draft and a first rounder next year and took RGIII, what are they really losing?

I would almost argue that a he would be more important to the Chiefs success over the next 10 or 12 years than all those picks combined.
There are about 5-6 QBs that come into the league over a 10-year span who are so good, they can win games even if their supporting cast is bad. Even Eli... some question if he's a pure Super Bowl QB without his stellar supporting cast. You give him an average cast and is he a Super Bowl winner?

If RGIII is the wrong QB and you trade away 3 drafts for him, you set the franchise back maybe 6 years. 3 years as you develop him. During those 3 years, your veterans will decline or go elsewhere and you probably bring in less than a handful of players from the draft to replace them so in 2015... you're probably rebuilding the supporting cast from scratch. If RGIII is good enough (but not Peyton Manning elite), then you leave him a 3-year window to win. If RGIII doesn't win a Super Bowl by 2015, suddenly, Bowe, Charles, Hali, etc... start to hit a decline. And again, no draft picks to replace them.

While I get that you have to take chances, people are seriously underestimating the risk of gambling everything on a drafted QB to not just be good, but to be in that ultra-rare class of elite QBs.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:53 PM   #12
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The Rams may have to trade back a high $ player to make cap room
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You are assuming that a team like the Rams is more interested in an expensive 27 year old who can give you five years, than a 22 year old who can give you 10 years.

It doesn't matter if Carr or Bowe are sure things. The Rams will realistically be competitive 2-3 years from now. So by the time, they're competitive, Bowe/Carr will be nearing the downside of their careers.
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Only way we get RGIII is if the other teams fill the qb thru free agency and he falls to us.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:57 PM   #15
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I think he was saying the Rams will ahve to trade one of their high money players.
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