Jerry Sandusky found GUILTY on 45 of 48 counts...

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

Here is the deal - McQueary did more than anyone else, yes. But he did not do what he should have. That does not make him a hero as some would paint him to be. He was a member of a cult who had good instincts but, did not act upon them the way he should have.

We can all say at one point or another in our lives that we should have done more. However this was not a situation where doing less was an option. He made it one, and therefore should not be heralded as a hero. PERIOD.

Nope, never said he was a hero. But he's not the villain everyone claims he is.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Nope, never said he was a hero. But he's not the villain everyone claims he is.

YES HE ****ING MOST CERTAINLY IS.

ANYONE THAT KNEW THIS GUY WAS ****ING LITTLE KIDS AND LET HIM CONTINUE TO DO IT IS A VILLAN.

i dont give a **** who he told about it obviously it didnt go anywhere and he still knew he SAW this ****er screwing a little kid.

should have done more, he is partly responsible for every kid that got molested by this guy from that point on.

HE LET IT CONTINUE.

oh and **** you, douchebag.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

YES HE ****ING MOST CERTAINLY IS.

ANYONE THAT KNEW THIS GUY WAS ****ING LITTLE KIDS AND LET HIM CONTINUE TO DO IT IS A VILLAN.

i dont give a **** who he told about it obviously it didnt go anywhere and he still knew he SAW this ****er screwing a little kid.

should have done more, he is partly responsible for every kid that got molested by this guy from that point on.

HE LET IT CONTINUE.

oh and **** you, douchebag.

When you tell three of your bosses and they not only sit on it but actively cover it up its not exactly easy. While his bosses danced around the story, made up stories to cover their ass, he directly stated the truth even if it damaged the university. Neither of those things are easy.

He didn't do enough. But apart from going direct to the cops he did everything a reasonable person should be expected to do. You can criticize him for not going above and beyond. But the fact is that the inaction is blamed on Paterno, spanier and curley. You are asking a subordinate to go over the heads of bosses three levels higher than him.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

When you tell three of your bosses and they not only sit on it but actively cover it up its not exactly easy. While his bosses danced around the story, made up stories to cover their ass, he directly stated the truth even if it damaged the university. Neither of those things are easy.

He didn't do enough. But apart from going direct to the cops he did everything a reasonable person should be expected to do. You can criticize him for not going above and beyond. But the fact is that the inaction is blamed on Paterno, spanier and curley. You are asking a subordinate to go over the heads of bosses three levels higher than him.

Bullcrap. I would tell them to do something before I did. You want to fire me? Just try it.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Brock

Bullcrap. I would tell them to do something before I did. You want to fire me? Just try it.

Exactly...after a week my next statement...in writing.... would be that I would have to approach the national media about what I saw. This isn't going away.

Sincerely,

GB

[luv]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Exactly...after a week my next statement...in writing.... would be that I would have to approach the national media about what I saw. This isn't going away.

Sincerely,

GB

Just what I was thinking. There's a documented history, you know, for a fact, that it is still happening, but you decide to just drop it?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Exactly...after a week my next statement...in writing.... would be that I would have to approach the national media about what I saw. This isn't going away.

Sincerely,

GB

I don't think your considering how much your life will change if you tattle on a school and legendary head coach. Especially if it sinks Penn state.
Look at Steve bartman. Look at fanatics who rallied aaround joe pa. Look at fanatics who sent death threats to mcqueary for having the "audacity" to speak up.

[luv]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't think your considering how much your life will change if you tattle on a school and legendary head coach. Especially if it sinks Penn state.
Look at Steve bartman. Look at fanatics who rallied aaround joe pa. Look at fanatics who sent death threats to mcqueary for having the "audacity" to speak up.

If you had to choose, would you choose receiving death threats or living with the fact that you didn't do what you could have to stop a serial child molester?

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't think your considering how much your life will change if you tattle on a school and legendary head coach. Especially if it sinks Penn state.
Look at Steve bartman. Look at fanatics who rallied aaround joe pa. Look at fanatics who sent death threats to mcqueary for having the "audacity" to speak up.

If they conduct themselves that way...WTH would I ever want to work there with those people. I would be just like them...and I'd rather be able to look at myself in the mirror. While what you say is a very real consequence, my personal principles don't allow me to care about that, because I'll get another job if I am a good coach. If I am a bad coach...I should do it anyway and get another career. Doing the right thing isn't really that hard even if you must be couragous

[REDHOTGTO]

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[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Brock

Bullcrap. I would tell them to do something before I did. You want to fire me? Just try it.

You can't say that without factoring in how powerful Paterno is. How protective the administration is about protecting secrecy. And how many Penn state fans will flood your phone and mailbox with death threats. Or factoring in that tattling on your boss is never easy to do... Period.

Again, its easy to stand on the sidelines and act like these decisions are easy.

[luv]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You can't say that without factoring in how powerful Paterno is. How protective the administration is about protecting secrecy. And how many Penn state fans will flood your phone and mailbox with death threats. Or factoring in that tattling on your boss is never easy to do... Period.

Again, its easy to stand on the sidelines and act like these decisions are easy.

Worst case scenario, you lose your job and have to find another. What do you think the worst case scenario is for the child?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You can't say that without factoring in how powerful Paterno is. How protective the administration is about protecting secrecy. And how many Penn state fans will flood your phone and mailbox with death threats. Or factoring in that tattling on your boss is never easy to do... Period.

Again, its easy to stand on the sidelines and act like these decisions are easy.

it should be an easy decision to call the ****ing police.

it's not a "university matter" at that point it's a call the ****ing cops right away matter.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You can't say that without factoring in how powerful Paterno is. How protective the administration is about protecting secrecy. And how many Penn state fans will flood your phone and mailbox with death threats. Or factoring in that tattling on your boss is never easy to do... Period.

Again, its easy to stand on the sidelines and act like these decisions are easy.

I can say that with full knowledge of all of those things. Protection of innocence should be every man's first job, if he wants to call himself a man. There are things more important than a job.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Brock

I can say that with full knowledge of all of those things. Protection of innocence should be every man's first job, if he wants to call himself a man. There are things more important than a job.

me too.

you cant see something like that and just let it go, and then spending 10 years seeing the kid ****er with more kids.