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Old 07-06-2012, 10:54 PM   #1
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To those who somehow think Eli is overrated some things to keep in mind.

While Peyton slings the ball all over the field and throws for a S@#t ton of TDs and calls a ton of audibles every play, all Eli does is win FREAKING SB rings. And he does it against the guy or guys (Brady and Belechick) that Peyton seemed to struggle against in big games.

Eli is easily Top 3-5 and Cassel is easily bottom five.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:56 PM   #2
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To those who somehow think Eli is overrated some things to keep in mind.

While Peyton slings the ball all over the field and throws for a S@#t ton of TDs and calls a ton of audibles every play, all Eli does is win FREAKING SB rings. And he does it against the guy or guys (Brady and Belechick) that Peyton seemed to struggle against in big games.

Eli is easily Top 3-5 and Cassel is easily bottom five.
Very simplistic thinking, although I agree with your comment on Cassel.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:59 PM   #3
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Very simplistic thinking, although I agree with your comment on Cassel.
What part of what I have said is false?
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:11 PM   #4
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What part of what I have said is false?
I didn't say false, I said simplistic. Peyton has struggled against the Chargers and the Pats in the playoffs. To say Peyton calls audibles and Eli just wins discounts every other variable associated to the game of football.
Simplistic...
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:23 PM   #5
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I didn't say false, I said simplistic. Peyton has struggled against the Chargers and the Pats in the playoffs. To say Peyton calls audibles and Eli just wins discounts every other variable associated to the game of football.
Simplistic...
That's it! When Peyton loses it is because of someone else and when Eli wins it is the same thing. Question, is Eli better that Rivers?
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:27 PM   #6
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That's it! When Peyton loses it is because of someone else and when Eli wins it is the same thing. Question, is Eli better that Rivers?
Answer your own question. It may be difficult since Eli's dinky is placed firmly in your mouth.
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:34 PM   #7
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Answer your own question. It may be difficult since Eli's dinky is placed firmly in your mouth.
I know the answer and I already stated he is Top 3-5. Your turn. Is he better than Rivers?
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Old 07-07-2012, 12:21 AM   #8
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Answer your own question. It may be difficult since Eli's dinky is placed firmly in your mouth.
If you step out of the box, you have to actually learn something about what it takes to win in the postseason and what it takes to win a Super Bowl.

Now, for all of Peyton's incredible regular season games in recent years, he has failed to live up to expectations in the postseason. EVERY single year that he's been there except when he won the Super Bowl, Peyton has choked.

1999 Colts lose 23-17 in OT to the Dolphins
Result: The Colts generated 11 points off Fiedler's interceptions but put a total of just 17 on the board.

2000 Colts lose 19-16 to Tennessee.
Result: Manning chokes. Colts lose, 19-16.

2003 Colts lose 41-0 to the NY Jets
Result: (14 for 31, 137 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs and failed to put a single point on the board. Manning chokes. Colts lose, 41-0.

2004 Colts lose 24-14 to the New England Patriots
Result: AFC title game against New England. Manning threw four interceptions. Manning chokes. Colts lose, 24-14

2005 Colts lose 20-3 to the New England Patriots
Result: Peyton 27 of 42 passes for 238 yards with 0 TDs and 1 INT. Manning chokes. Colts lose, 20-3 .

2006 Super Bowl Colts win 29-17 to the Chicago Bears
Result: When the Colts switched to a two back set in 2006, the backs both had amazing postseasons.

2007 Colts 24-28 lose to the San Diego Chargers
Result: Peyton 33 of 48 passes for 402 yards with 3 TDs and 2 INT. Manning chokes. Colts lose 28-24

2008 Colts 17-23 lose (Wildcard) to the San Diego Chargers
Result: Peyton 25 of 42 passes for 310 yards 1 TD and 0 INT. Manning chokes. Colts lose 23-17

2009 Super Bowl Colts 17-31 lose to the New Orleans Saints
Result: Peyton 31 of 45 passes for 333 yards 1 TD and 1 INT. Manning chokes.
Colts lose 31-17

2010 Colts lose 17-16 (Wildcard) to the New York Jets
Result: Peyton 18 of 26 passes for 225 yards 1 TD 0 INT. Manning chokes.
J.C. if you lose to Mark Sanchez, you damn better know you choked BIG time.

That is all.

Source: http://www.pro-football-reference.co...r_by=game_date

Now, may I suggest you take this information back to the Denver Broncos' forum and let them digest this.

Yours truly,

A fan of Peyton's big brother, Eli Manning
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:25 PM   #9
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To those who somehow think Eli is overrated some things to keep in mind.

While Peyton slings the ball all over the field and throws for a S@#t ton of TDs and calls a ton of audibles every play, all Eli does is win FREAKING SB rings. And he does it against the guy or guys (Brady and Belechick) that Peyton seemed to struggle against in big games.

Eli is easily Top 3-5 and Cassel is easily bottom five.
Ah, thank you, tredadda.

I promise to have more strength tomorrow to go head to head with anybody that thinks Eli is not all that. And, personally, I would not change him for any other quarterback in NFL.

I would rank Eli in one of the top 3 positions - where in the top three - I'll get back to you with the answer.
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