Would you pay Bowe $120-130M for 8 years?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Yeah, maybe someone like JaMarcus Russell is available. If not, maybe the greatness that is Vince Young can be gotten.

Freeman's thrown more INTs than TDs in 2 of his 3 seasons. In Cassel's four seasons as a starter, he's never thrown more INTs than TDs. But let's pretend that Freeman has shown that he is the answer. It's easier than taking a real look at what's been going on in KC.

Nice edit, assbag.

Oh noes, Freeman has thrown INT's in his FIRST THREE YEARS in the league.

Meanwhile, he's still 51/46.

And he's 24. No room for improvement, according to your dumb ass.

Keep stroking the wood for a career backup with limited talent.

Better yet, go back to your Patriots board and act like you know shit about football because your organization stumbled into a franchise QB no one wanted but Dick Rehbein.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Nice edit, assbag.

I fleshed out the Freeman point. I don't see why that's got your panties in a wad.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Oh noes, Freeman has thrown INT's in his FIRST THREE YEARS in the league.

Meanwhile, he's still 51/46.

And he's 24. No room for improvement, according to your dumb ass.

Keep stroking the wood for a career backup with limited talent.

Better yet, go back to your Patriots board and act like you know shit about football because your organization stumbled into a franchise QB no one wanted but Dick Rehbein.

Hey, dipshit, I'm not stroking wood over anyone. I'm pointing out that your argument about getting a franchise QB is a bullshit argument. Is your comprehension really that poor?

You can piss and moan all you want, but it's not going to magically produce a franchise QB that Pioli missed on in the draft since the arrival of Cassel.

If Sanchez, Freeman, Dalton, etc... ever show themselves as franchise QBs, you'll have a point. None of them have done it so far, so you're just talking out of your ass right now.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I fleshed out the Freeman point. I don't see why that's got your panties in a wad.



Hey, dipshit, I'm not stroking wood over anyone. I'm pointing out that your argument about getting a franchise QB is a bullshit argument. Is your comprehension really that poor?

You can piss and moan all you want, but it's not going to magically produce a franchise QB that Pioli missed on in the draft.

My point isn't at all debatable. There's nothing "magical" about acquiring a franchise QB.

You'll never acquire a franchise QB if you never try to.

You can sit back and compare Freeman to Russell all you want, but that doesn't mean the kid is a bust.

Only a fool would give up on a 24 year old with 3 years experience who has this much untapped talent.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

My point isn't at all debatable. There's nothing "magical" about acquiring a franchise QB.

You'll never acquire a franchise QB if you never try to.

You can sit back and compare Freeman to Russell all you want, but that doesn't mean the kid is a bust.

Only a fool would give up on a 24 year old with 3 years experience who has this much untapped talent.

So far, none of the QBs they've passed on has shown themselves as a franchise QB, so there wasn't some failure just because non-franchise QBs were allowed to slide by. If Freeman becomes another Aaron Rodgers (falling QB who turns out to be franchise level), your point will have merit. Right now, it doesn't.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

So far, none of the QBs they've passed on has shown themselves as a franchise QB, so there wasn't some failure just because non-franchise QBs were allowed to slide by. If Freeman becomes another Aaron Rodgers (falling QB who turns out to be franchise level), your point will have merit. Right now, it doesn't.

This is like arguing with Terri Schaivo.

That's the problem. You're too busy looking at the here and now, and not considering the huge advantage Freeman has in terms of talent, and the time he has to realize that talent.

In the last three years with their respective teams, Freeman's statistics are better than Cassel's in every category except TD's (-2) and INT's (+14)

More yardage, better completion percentage, better YPA.

One fewer win. Young guy, thrown straight into the fire to learn on the job, with no talent around him, and his numbers are either flat-out better, or very comparable to Cassel, who had the benefit of 7 years in the league, a historic running game and weapons to throw (5 yard passes) to.

Holding every disadvantage, Freeman still trumps Cassel.

So what exactly would be different had we chosen Freeman?

At worst, we'd have many more years for the kid to realize his full potential. To learn, and to get better.

You can scream that Freeman isn't a franchise QB right now until you're blue in the face. That's not the point. He has the potential and time to be one, and the QB we currently have does not.

Again, you'll never find a franchise QB if you never try.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

This is like arguing with Terri Schaivo.

That's the problem. You're too busy looking at the here and now, and not considering the huge advantage Freeman has in terms of talent, and the time he has to realize that talent.

In the last three years with their respective teams, Freeman's statistics are better than Cassel's in every category except TD's (-2) and INT's (+14)

More yardage, better completion percentage, better YPA.

One fewer win. Young guy, thrown straight into the fire to learn on the job, with no talent around him, and his numbers are either flat-out better, or very comparable to Cassel, who had the benefit of 7 years in the league, a historic running game and weapons to throw (5 yard passes) to.

Holding every disadvantage, Freeman still trumps Cassel.

So what exactly would be different had we chosen Freeman?

At worst, we'd have many more years for the kid to realize his full potential. To learn, and to get better.

You can scream that Freeman isn't a franchise QB right now until you're blue in the face. That's not the point. He has the potential and time to be one, and the QB we currently have does not.

Again, you'll never find a franchise QB if you never try.

You'll never find a franchise QB if you never try would be a perfectly good argument if they'd missed on a franchise QB. They haven't, so your argument is idiotic.

And Cassel's been better than Freeman in QB rating, TD% and INT%, as well.