Chiefs camp report: Poe has ‘a ways to go’

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Woe is Poe

Almost from the start of training camp, coach Romeo Crennel has tried to downplay expectations for rookie nose tackle Dontari Poe, the Chiefs first-round draft pick. Crennel put that in his strongest terms yet on Wednesday when asked what Poe needs to improve on in order to get more playing time.

“A lot,” Crennel said. “He needs to work on technique, he needs to work on understanding the system, he needs to get the calls correct all the time. He’s got a ways to go.”

Anthony Toribio, who spent all of last season on the practice squad, remains as the starting nose tackle ahead of Poe on the depth chart. Poe enters the lineup on obvious passing downs when the Chiefs use their nickel defense.

Poe acknowledged the difficulty of adjusting to the NFL game.

“It’s all different,” he said. “The technique of it, there’s nothing the same about the college level. The only thing the same is that it’s football. As far as the speed level and the strength and all that, you’ve got to learn it all over again.

“I still have a ways to go but I’m getting better every day. I’m just trying to do what I can, trying to do everything they teach me.”

Tackling issues

To prevent injuries, the Chiefs have not done tackling drills during training camp. That could lead to some tackling problems in Friday night’s game.

“It’s not excused,” Crennel said. “On defense your job is to tackle, so tackle. Even though we don’t tackle in practice, your job is to tackle, so you tackle.”

Crennel said he wouldn’t work on tackling next week when camp resumes even if the Chiefs struggle in that area against Arizona.

“If I tackle Jamaal Charles, and he gets hurt, then you’re going to blame me for tackling,” Crennel said. “So, I’m going to use my best judgment to get those guys in position to tackle and make plays and try to keep my guys as healthy as I can, so I can get them to the regular season and we’re able to play at a good level. Everybody in the NFL has the same problem, trying to keep guys healthy and how to practice and get work done without exposing your guys to possible injury.”

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[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

What's the excuse for our 26th ranked run defense last season, then?

Shit, we barely beat the Browns the last time we played them, and we already have our own Derek Anderson, now we have Brady Quinn, Peyton Hillis and Brian Daboll.

The Brownsification of the Chiefs continues.

YPC rank?

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Just as I thought.

Yeah, I actually KNOW some Browns fans personally, and while they are not crazy about Crennel, they don't hate him and they recognize the Chiefs have far more talent than the Browns had.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Dave

Yeah, I actually KNOW some Browns fans personally, and while they are not crazy about Crennel, they don't hate him and they recognize the Chiefs have far more talent than the Browns had.

Indeed. So we can go 8-8 instead of 4-12.

Wahoo!

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by PGM

YPC rank?

Cling to that, if it makes you feel better.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Cling to that, if it makes you feel better.

Just as I thought

Tied for 14th in YPC
Longest run only 35 yards 5th in the NFL
Faced 4th most rushing attempts

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Indeed. So we can go 8-8 instead of 4-12.

Wahoo!

You impart as much logic as this:

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by PGM

Just as I thought

Tied for 14th in YPC
Longest run only 35 yards 5th in the NFL
Faced 4th most rushing attempts

Good points, but it leaves the fact out that we couldn't get other teams off the field. I think the numbers will improve with any input from the offense. Teams ran against us because they knew they could sit on the ball with a lead and we wouldn't come back. Offense and defense are often inter-related.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by jspchief

I'm floored by this news. Never in a million years did I think Dontari Mamula would need to learn to play football.

Just line him up at bench press and watch him wreak havoc on opposing offenses.

that one gotcha did it?

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by AutumnWind

Well you don't take DL that high to be run stoppers. That is where you get complete dominating players that can consistently win one on one battles. They absolutely have to be able to rush the passer and it's even more important in the passing league today. Those two guys cannot rush the passer even though they are grossly overpaid.

Oh bullshit, the Chiefs 3-4 ends are supposed to occupy blockers and keep the lbers clean. They have been doing their job very well.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

You are correct.

No he is not, and don't ever tell him he is.

[KC kid]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

We can chat and debate all we want.

Bottom line is, if Cassel doesn't play lights out, this team isn't going to win shit.

This season squarely rests on his shoulders. I'm not worried about the defense one bit, esp with a healthy Eric Berry. Teams will score on us, but they're not going to have fun doing it. I do however, hope they're better at stopping the run. They weren't terrible, but it does need to improve a lot.

Good lord. Can we please have a thread that is not hijacked by cassel haters

[OctoberFart]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Oh bullshit, the Chiefs 3-4 ends are supposed to occupy blockers and keep the lbers clean. They have been doing their job very well.

When you draft a guy at 3 you expect more than that. They were hoping for Richard Seymour and got Brett Keisel.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by AutumnWind

When you draft a guy at 3 you expect more than that. They were hoping for Richard Seymour and got Brett Keisel.

Well, he's no JaMarcus Russell, but the Chiefs will try to go on.

[OctoberFart]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

You are correct.

But they are not "bust". Each of them play well at their positions and do their jobs effectively. It was the Chiefs mistake in taking a 5-tech at #3 overall, and it's not Dorsey's fault he was forced into a new role.

I'm just pointing out that bust is not the correct word when discussing them.

A bust would be someone who has failed at their position yet held high expectations. Jamarcus Russell. Robert Gallery. And an argument could be made for DHB unless he excels in 2012. Those are busts.

Rusell huge bust. Gallery is about the same as Dorsey and Jackson. He was a good G but not at the salary he was getting. DHB actually came around last year and I never expected it. I thought for sure he would bust. I thought KC should of taken one of the OT's that were there or if they were dead set on DL Raji who had the ability to play 5 technique or the 0 tech NT.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by AutumnWind

Gallery is about the same as Dorsey and Jackson.

Crackhead