*.* 2012 General Fitness Thread *.*

[Mr. Flopnuts]

The fatass is back. Since losing 185lbs and moving to MO, I've gained back probably 100lbs or more, and have turned into a mild alcoholic. I know this is incredibly attractive to people, particularly guys in this thread.

That said, I'm hoping to tap your brains, and get some support as I try and get back to who I loved the best, and that was the guy running 30-40 miles a week and living the dream. I've forgotten a lot of what I knew. Honestly, I'll need you guys and hope you'll look at it as charity work.

I want the 100 gone. So I'm really considering juicing for 3 months as I get back into an exercise routine. I know for fact that #1 calories in vs. calories out is the best way to go, but it's not an exact science. Definitely the route I'm taking. #2 fat people lose more weight the first 3 months than they do after their bodies adjust to their new regimen. Juicing makes good sense for someone who wants to drop a massive amount of weight quickly.

Anyone know anything about it? Any pointers on a good weight liftiing regimen for someone who has no clue what their doing regarding form would be great as well. I can't afford a trainer, but I'm dedicated to having a strength conditioning routine as well as my massive amounts of cardio. I can spend 2-3 or even 4 hours in a gym every day if that's what I need to do.

Thanks for reading my sob story, and any help you can give me along the way will be incredibly appreciated.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

The fatass is back. Since losing 185lbs and moving to MO, I've gained back probably 100lbs or more, and have turned into a mild alcoholic. I know this is incredibly attractive to people, particularly guys in this thread.

That said, I'm hoping to tap your brains, and get some support as I try and get back to who I loved the best, and that was the guy running 30-40 miles a week and living the dream. I've forgotten a lot of what I knew. Honestly, I'll need you guys and hope you'll look at it as charity work.

I want the 100 gone. So I'm really considering juicing for 3 months as I get back into an exercise routine. I know for fact that #1 calories in vs. calories out is the best way to go, but it's not an exact science. Definitely the route I'm taking. #2 fat people lose more weight the first 3 months than they do after their bodies adjust to their new regimen. Juicing makes good sense for someone who wants to drop a massive amount of weight quickly.

Anyone know anything about it? Any pointers on a good weight liftiing regimen for someone who has no clue what their doing regarding form would be great as well. I can't afford a trainer, but I'm dedicated to having a strength conditioning routine as well as my massive amounts of cardio. I can spend 2-3 or even 4 hours in a gym every day if that's what I need to do.

Thanks for reading my sob story, and any help you can give me along the way will be incredibly appreciated.

I seriously hope your kidding about considering juicing. At your weight & BF%, it would be a very expensive waste of money. There are no anabolic's that magically "strip" bodyfat.. what they do for cutting is help you keep whatever muscle you have in times of extreme caloric deficit. For your case, I'd read some of Jim Wendlers work and move, what he calls, "North of vag". Get your diet in check, lift heavy 3-4x per week, do some hill sprints 2-3x week and kick some ass.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

I seriously hope your kidding about considering juicing. At your weight & BF%, it would be a very expensive waste of money. There are no anabolic's that magically "strip" bodyfat.. what they do for cutting is help you keep whatever muscle you have in times of extreme caloric deficit. For your case, I'd read some of Jim Wendlers work and move, what he calls, "North of vag". Get your diet in check, lift heavy 3-4x per week, do some hill sprints 2-3x week and kick some ass.

Thanks man. I don't know anything about juicing, I just see people losing a metric **** ton of weight doing it. I need a long term plan, but I know you lose the most in the first 90 days while your body is in shock. I guess it doesn't really matter as far how the calories are ingested, I just need to cut to 800-1000 a day with enough protein.

If I'm ignorant in what I'm saying, let me know. I've done this before, and have seen morbidly obese people do it. I just want the most results in fat loss as quickly as possible. I'll figure the long term out once I'm under 300 again. In any case, I've got Wendler's blog up now. Thanks for the tip.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Thanks man. I don't know anything about juicing, I just see people losing a metric **** ton of weight doing it. I need a long term plan, but I know you lose the most in the first 90 days while your body is in shock. I guess it doesn't really matter as far how the calories are ingested, I just need to cut to 800-1000 a day with enough protein.

If I'm ignorant in what I'm saying, let me know. I've done this before, and have seen morbidly obese people do it. I just want the most results in fat loss as quickly as possible. I'll figure the long term out once I'm under 300 again. In any case, I've got Wendler's blog up now. Thanks for the tip.

PM me you email, I'll send you his 5/3/1 training manual. I've went from 230 to 215 in 8 weeks while getting a lot stronger. Pulled 500 for a triple for the first time since college, and generally feel a lot more in shape than I every did.

Edit: If anyone else wants 5/3/1 pdf manual let me know. His second edition is up on scribd too.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

PM me you email, I'll send you his 5/3/1 training manual. I've went from 230 to 215 in 8 weeks while getting a lot stronger. Pulled 500 for a triple for the first time since college, and generally feel a lot more in shape than I every did.

Right on! Thanks a million man. I really thought long and hard before putting myself out there like that again on this board. I really, really, appreciate it.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Slick

When you say you see people losing weight juicing are you referring to BB'ers cutting up for a show?

I wouldn't recommend anabolics to anyone that hasn't reached close to there natural peak.

Get the diet in check, hit the weights 4 times a week and use compound type movements... Bench, Squats, deads and some interval running if you are capable before messing with hormones.

Have you ever had any blood work done by a doc to check hormone levels? Testosterone? Thyroid?

Originally Posted by Brock

Yeah, no. YOu didn't need that shit before, you don't need it now.

No, no. I don't mean steroids. Heh, my bad. I mean getting a juicer and drinking vegetables. I feel like an idiot now. I've never really lifted weights in my life. I don't know shit about it. That's a big problem for me. I can't afford a trainer and I'm scared I'm going to hurt myself and not be able to do cardio.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

No, no. I don't mean steroids. Heh, my bad. I mean getting a juicer and drinking vegetables. I feel like an idiot now. I've never really lifted weights in my life. I don't know shit about it. That's a big problem for me. I can't afford a trainer and I'm scared I'm going to hurt myself and not be able to do cardio.

LOL. That's a pretty huge misunderstanding on my part. Juicing is good.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

No, no. I don't mean steroids. Heh, my bad. I mean getting a juicer and drinking vegetables. I feel like an idiot now. I've never really lifted weights in my life. I don't know shit about it. That's a big problem for me. I can't afford a trainer and I'm scared I'm going to hurt myself and not be able to do cardio.

You are missing out on the most beneficial part of a vegetable when you juice it. The fiber. Adjust your diet so that you are consuming foods that are much lower in calorie density and hit the gym.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Thanks man. I don't know anything about juicing, I just see people losing a metric **** ton of weight doing it. I need a long term plan, but I know you lose the most in the first 90 days while your body is in shock. I guess it doesn't really matter as far how the calories are ingested, I just need to cut to 800-1000 a day with enough protein.

If I'm ignorant in what I'm saying, let me know. I've done this before, and have seen morbidly obese people do it. I just want the most results in fat loss as quickly as possible. I'll figure the long term out once I'm under 300 again. In any case, I've got Wendler's blog up now. Thanks for the tip.

When you say you see people losing weight juicing are you referring to BB'ers cutting up for a show?

I wouldn't recommend anabolics to anyone that hasn't reached close to there natural peak.

Get the diet in check, hit the weights 4 times a week and use compound type movements... Bench, Squats, deads and some interval running if you are capable before messing with hormones.

Have you ever had any blood work done by a doc to check hormone levels? Testosterone? Thyroid?

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Juicing makes good sense for someone who wants to drop a massive amount of weight quickly.

Yeah, no. YOu didn't need that shit before, you don't need it now.