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[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DaFace

We've had a nice, steady flow of decent n00bs around here this year. Seems like we've been a bit dry in that department lately.

I guess the Coalition's loss is our gain in this case.

Since 2008 when no noob was worthy got the most votes, 2 out of the last 3 "King of the Noobs" (Boss Chief and Bone Crusher) have been refugees from the Coalition. It's early but it looks like we may another former Coalition member take this years crown.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Since 2008 when no noob was worthy got the most votes, 2 out of the last 3 "King of the Noobs" (Boss Chief and Bone Crusher) have been refugees from the Coalition. It's early but it looks like we may another former Coalition member take this years crown.

The guy who said Charles isn't quick?
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[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Since 2008 when no noob was worthy got the most votes, 2 out of the last 3 "King of the Noobs" (Boss Chief and Bone Crusher) have been refugees from the Coalition. It's early but it looks like we may another former Coalition member take this years crown.

And that third guys was just an endelt mult....

[KCUnited]

I'd be convinced this guy was troll if he didn't admit he was from the Coalition. Textbook Coalition homering here.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

I'd be convinced this guy was troll if he didn't admit he was from the Coalition. Textbook Coalition homering here.

Well, there are quite a few things that I am holding back that probably won't be popular opinions.

Like I said, I am usually not optimistic. Don't generalize me.

I like Marty.

I hated what Vermeil did with the team.

I liked Herm.

I liked Thigpen.

Recently?

I hated Haley from day one. From the moment he was hired I was all over his ass. I was completely alone over there for years. People hated me for this.

I like Pioli.

I don't hate Cassel.

I can't stand Bowe.

I think Flowers is overrated bigtime. Carr was much better. For years I was the only one saying he was better. people hated me for this.

I think Charles is overrated.

I like Dorsey and Jackson.

I think Albert is underrated.

I like Belcher.

I think DJ is overrated.

I think Colquitt is overrated.

I like McGraw, Daniels, and Copper. They are, or were, all solid player with value.

I hate Peyton Manning so bad I didn't want him.

I ****ing hate Brady Quinn.

I'm not high on Lewis. I wanted us to sign Atogwe, Bell, or Leonard.

Ask me anything about the Chiefs and I will shoot you straight.

[In58men]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

I liked Herm

Drunkie, can we have your thoughts please?

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by Inmem58

Drunkie, can we have your thoughts please?

I actually quit drinking like three hours ago. I am pretty sober.

I guess you want to hear about Herm?

Here's what I didn't like... he didn't hate the Raiders enough. That pissed me off. He should have run a harder training camp.

Herm was a good guy. I liked him and he was entertaining. He did an amazing job the first year he was in KC. He inherited a team that was old as hell and made the playoffs. So what if we backed in? We were in a position to back in.

The second year he was in KC, the players aged out and the wheels fell off. It wasn't his fault at all. The dude had a QB like once in his entire career. His third year was just one long preseason. He played more rookies than anyone in the history of the NFL that year. It was revolutionary really. I mean we cut people and signed people every week and they played on Sunday. He built the team we have today. Most of the core players came from Herm's reign. Hell, even the guys he didn't draft are still playing. Guys like Thigpen, Brackenridge, Patterson, and the list goes on.

The reality is that he was hired to rebuild the team from day one but, management quickly changed their minds. He took us to the playoffs with Damon Huard for God's sake. He really started the rebuild in year three. Just in time for Clark to panic as the new owner. I understand it was time for CP to go and I agreed with the Pioli hiring. However, Herm was doing a good job and he could not make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

I like where we are now. I really like Romeo and am glad Haley is gone. I just didn't get the Haley hire. We missed on every other HC and were like the last team to hire a coach. it was a bad hire from the beginning.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

I actually quit drinking like three hours ago. I am pretty sober.

I guess you want to hear about Herm?

Here's what I didn't like... he didn't hate the Raiders enough. That pissed me off. He should have run a harder training camp.

Herm was a good guy. I liked him and he was entertaining. He did an amazing job the first year he was in KC. He inherited a team that was old as hell and made the playoffs. So what if we backed in? We were in a position to back in.

The second year he was in KC, the players aged out and the wheels fell off. It wasn't his fault at all. The dude had a QB like once in his entire career. His third year was just one long preseason. He played more rookies than anyone in the history of the NFL that year. It was revolutionary really. I mean we cut people and signed people every week and they played on Sunday. He built the team we have today. Most of the core players came from Herm's reign. Hell, even the guys he didn't draft are still playing. Guys like Thigpen, Brackenridge, Patterson, and the list goes on.

The reality is that he was hired to rebuild the team from day one but, management quickly changed their minds. He took us to the playoffs with Damon Huard for God's sake. He really started the rebuild in year three. Just in time for Clark to panic as the new owner. I understand it was time for CP to go and I agreed with the Pioli hiring. However, Herm was doing a good job and he could not make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

I like where we are now. I really like Romeo and am glad Haley is gone. I just didn't get the Haley hire. We missed on every other HC and were like the last team to hire a coach. it was a bad hire from the beginning.

You got some different ideas than most around here. Hope you have thick skin.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

I actually quit drinking like three hours ago. I am pretty sober.

I guess you want to hear about Herm?

Here's what I didn't like... he didn't hate the Raiders enough. That pissed me off. He should have run a harder training camp.

Herm was a good guy. I liked him and he was entertaining. He did an amazing job the first year he was in KC. He inherited a team that was old as hell and made the playoffs. So what if we backed in? We were in a position to back in.

The second year he was in KC, the players aged out and the wheels fell off. It wasn't his fault at all. The dude had a QB like once in his entire career. His third year was just one long preseason. He played more rookies than anyone in the history of the NFL that year. It was revolutionary really. I mean we cut people and signed people every week and they played on Sunday. He built the team we have today. Most of the core players came from Herm's reign. Hell, even the guys he didn't draft are still playing. Guys like Thigpen, Brackenridge, Patterson, and the list goes on.

The reality is that he was hired to rebuild the team from day one but, management quickly changed their minds. He took us to the playoffs with Damon Huard for God's sake. He really started the rebuild in year three. Just in time for Clark to panic as the new owner. I understand it was time for CP to go and I agreed with the Pioli hiring. However, Herm was doing a good job and he could not make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

I like where we are now. I really like Romeo and am glad Haley is gone. I just didn't get the Haley hire. We missed on every other HC and were like the last team to hire a coach. it was a bad hire from the beginning.

As a former coalition member and as a general service to the public I must warn you that Inmem58 is an asshole.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

Well, there are quite a few things that I am holding back that probably won't be popular opinions.

Like I said, I am usually not optimistic. Don't generalize me.

I like Marty.

You're a ****ing idiot.

I hated what Vermeil did with the team.

You're not a total idiot

I liked Herm.

I was wrong, you are a total idiot.

I liked Thigpen.

Further proof of total idiocy.

Recently?

I hated Haley from day one. From the moment he was hired I was all over his ass. I was completely alone over there for years. People hated me for this.

Are you sure this is all they hated you for?

Your previous idiocy should have had them hating you already.

I like Pioli.

I don't hate Cassel.

I can't stand Bowe.

How do you have the mental facility to pull yourself out of bed in the morinng?

I think Flowers is overrated bigtime. Carr was much better. For years I was the only one saying he was better. people hated me for this.

God damn it, I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.

I think Charles is overrated.

Seriously?

6.4 ypc, and a guy that makes a 7 points a game difference in offensive production since he became the starter, and he's overrated?

Does your mother still tie your shoes for you?

I like Dorsey and Jackson.

I think Albert is underrated.

I like Belcher.

I think DJ is overrated.

I think Colquitt is overrated.

I like McGraw, Daniels, and Copper. They are, or were, all solid player with value.

I hate Peyton Manning so bad I didn't want him.

I ****ing hate Brady Quinn.

I'm not high on Lewis. I wanted us to sign Atogwe, Bell, or Leonard.

Ask me anything about the Chiefs and I will shoot you straight.

I might come back to the rest of these, but those first few are enough for now.

I've seen enough to know that you a complete ****ing moron.

[cdcox]

See below.

Originally Posted by BlackBob

Well, there are quite a few things that I am holding back that probably won't be popular opinions.

Like I said, I am usually not optimistic. Don't generalize me.

I like Marty. Good coach for a team that needs to be rebuilt. But as an owner I would replace him once I got competitive.

I hated what Vermeil did with the team. Great with FA and the offense. Terrible with the draft and the defense. With an assertive and competent defensive coordinator, it could have been different.

I liked Herm. Dude.

I liked Thigpen. Dude.

Recently?

I hated Haley from day one. From the moment he was hired I was all over his ass. I was completely alone over there for years. People hated me for this. Haley is an enigma. I still don't know what to think, given Cassel and Pioli. Seems to be weaving back and forth over the line between genius and insanity.

I like Pioli. Tries too hard with decisions like Cassel and McCluster. Needs to try harder with picks like Jackson (not a bad player, but terrible value at that pick)

I don't hate Cassel. Dude.

I can't stand Bowe. Detecting a pattern. You like players with no talent, but hate on players with talent.

I think Flowers is overrated bigtime. Carr was much better. For years I was the only one saying he was better. people hated me for this. Carr is better in coverage, but Flowers isn't a slouch and is stronger in run support. Two fine corners.

I think Charles is overrated. Pattern confirmed.

I like Dorsey and Jackson. Yeah, but neither has met their value at the draft position. Ignore draft position and they are good players, but not stars.

I think Albert is underrated. Agree that he is underrated by idiots and casual fans, but people who know football have him rated about right.

I like Belcher. Pattern confirmed. Serviceable two down LB, but upgradable position.

I think DJ is overrated. Pattern confirmed.

I think Colquitt is overrated. I don't get too worked up over keekers and punters as long as they are competent. Beyond that, on average, they don't really matter.

I like McGraw, Daniels, and Copper. They are, or were, all solid player with value. Pattern confirmed.

I hate Peyton Manning so bad I didn't want him. Pattern confirmed. But I think he may flop post injury.

I ****ing hate Brady Quinn.No love here.

I'm not high on Lewis. I wanted us to sign Atogwe, Bell, or Leonard. Agreed. Easy upgrade.

Ask me anything about the Chiefs and I will shoot you straight.

[In58men]

Originally Posted by cdcox

See below.

Dude.....

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by cdcox

See below.

Jackson came from the worst draft class ever. The guy picked ahead of him just got beaten out by Barry Richardson. Seattle gave Curry to Oakland for a sandwich. Crabtree has done nothing. Raji had one good year but looks pretty damn lazy now. I don't know what to say here? Jackson looks pretty good considering...

Dorsey was a good pick. He was meant to be a cover 2 pass rushing DT. He was a monster at LSU. He was a good pick and he plays great for us. He ranked 6th in 3-4 run stopping DEs. Tamba is always one on one with the LT... ALWAYS... He does a damn fine job imo.

People's draft expectations are always to high. Look at the league. I mean pushing 40 Terrell Owens was playoing for Seattle last night. Why, because all of those young draft picks around the league haven't been good enough to beat him out for the past 20 years. It's why guys like McGraw play for 10 years. No one could beat him out. Realistically, a first round starter who is solid is a good pick. Eric Berry's are rare.

Flowers peaked two years ago. He is Sheldon Brown's clone. Brown is a good player and so is Flowers. He'll make the pro bowl once but that's about it. Teams always go after Flowers in the two minute drill. Carr should have been playing LCB. Carr has not peaked yet. BTW, when Herm picked Carr, he called him "his birthday present."

I want to see Belcher get re-signed. He has earned a contract.

People make of fun of me for liking the role player types like Daniels, Copper, and McGraw. The truth is that they are the kind of players that make the difference. We had a wonderful free agency this year. Guys like Elam and Reeves are the same kind of guys.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by crazycoffey

And that third guys was just an endelt mult....

Shogun was an endelt mult?

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Shogun was an endelt mult?

I can't math, LOL messed up the years.