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Old 12-23-2012, 12:09 PM   #1
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Marc Ross drafts with the Giants. Not a whole lot of greatness here either.
2012
David Wilson
Rueben Randle
Jayron Hosley
Adrien Robinson
Brandon Mosley
Matt McCants
Markus Kuhn

2011
Prince Amukamara
Marvin Austin
Jerrel Jernigan
James Brewer
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jacquian Williams
Da'Rel Scott

2010
Jason Pierre-Paul
Linval Joseph
Phillip Dillard
Mitch Petrus
Adrian Tracy
Matt Dodge

2009
Hakeem Nicks
Clint Sintim
William Beatty
Ramses Barden
Travis Beckum
Andre Brown
Rhett Bomar
DeAndre Wright
Stoney Woodson

2008
Kenny Phillips
Terrell Thomas
Mario Manningham
Bryan Kehl
Jonathan Goff
Andre Woodson
Robert Henderson

2007
Aaron Ross
Steve Smith
Jay Alford
Zak DeOssie
Kevin Boss
Adam Koets
Michael Johnson
Ahmad Bradshaw
That's actually pretty damn good.

He's got one or two drafts where he's hitting on 30-40% of his picks. A couple drafts like 2010 only gave him two good players, but damn those are two ****ing amazing players.

If the Chiefs could draft as well as this lineup after we take Geno Smith, we won't need more than 2 seasons to take over the AFC West. With a little bit of luck involved in the coaching hire, and if Geno Smith is as good as I think he can be, we'll be contending for the Super Bowl shortly after.

Those Mark Ross drafts in Kansas City is what we need.
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:28 PM   #2
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That's actually pretty damn good.

He's got one or two drafts where he's hitting on 30-40% of his picks. A couple drafts like 2010 only gave him two good players, but damn those are two ****ing amazing players.

If the Chiefs could draft as well as this lineup after we take Geno Smith, we won't need more than 2 seasons to take over the AFC West. With a little bit of luck involved in the coaching hire, and if Geno Smith is as good as I think he can be, we'll be contending for the Super Bowl shortly after.

Those Mark Ross drafts in Kansas City is what we need.
I don't know man.
It is a little early to say much about the 2012 draft but Wilson has had a very mediocre season when Bradshaw and co. missed a lot of time.
Amukamara can't seem to stay healthy. The rest of 2011 is not impressive.
Pierre-Paul is good and Joseph has been ok but he has stomped a player for retaliating because Joseph was trying to pull him off the pile. The rest of 2010 is meh.
Hakeem Nicks is ok but is inconsistent at best and is dinged up easily. The rest of 2009 is pretty meh.
Kenny Philips and Terrell Thomas are ok but not great shut down anything.
There is a lot of mediocrity through all of those drafts.
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:45 PM   #3
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I don't know man.
It is a little early to say much about the 2012 draft but Wilson has had a very mediocre season when Bradshaw and co. missed a lot of time.
Amukamara can't seem to stay healthy. The rest of 2011 is not impressive.
Pierre-Paul is good and Joseph has been ok but he has stomped a player for retaliating because Joseph was trying to pull him off the pile. The rest of 2010 is meh.
Hakeem Nicks is ok but is inconsistent at best and is dinged up easily. The rest of 2009 is pretty meh.
Kenny Philips and Terrell Thomas are ok but not great shut down anything.
There is a lot of mediocrity through all of those drafts.
Now we're just getting picky on a few of these players. The Giants have been re-stocking on fresh new talent every season seemingly. Draft or free agency.

Pioli has done neither, and doesn't respect the QB position. He's also a psychotic sociopathic dumbass.

If we hired Ross, got a halfway decent coach, and drafted Geno, this team would be going places. That's all it takes.
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:49 PM   #4
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Now we're just getting picky on a few of these players. The Giants have been re-stocking on fresh new talent every season seemingly. Draft or free agency.

Pioli has done neither, and doesn't respect the QB position. He's also a psychotic sociopathic dumbass.

If we hired Ross, got a halfway decent coach, and drafted Geno, this team would be going places. That's all it takes.
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:54 PM   #5
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I don't know man.
It is a little early to say much about the 2012 draft but Wilson has had a very mediocre season when Bradshaw and co. missed a lot of time.
Amukamara can't seem to stay healthy. The rest of 2011 is not impressive.
Pierre-Paul is good and Joseph has been ok but he has stomped a player for retaliating because Joseph was trying to pull him off the pile. The rest of 2010 is meh.
Hakeem Nicks is ok but is inconsistent at best and is dinged up easily. The rest of 2009 is pretty meh.
Kenny Philips and Terrell Thomas are ok but not great shut down anything.
There is a lot of mediocrity through all of those drafts.
There's mediocrity in most teams drafts.

The thing I like about him is he's not afraid to pull the trigger on a huge ceiling prospect like JPP and that he's managed to pull in some guys who have contributed - substantially more than what we've seen here under Pioli.

Add to it that the guy is smart (two Ivy league degrees), isn't a son of some guy from the '70's NFL and has intermed/done his time under solid, successful team oriented atmospheres.

Also, he was the Eagles Director of College Scouting back in 2000 at only 27 years old (youngest director of college scouting in the NFL) until 2004.

In between his Eagles and Giants gigs, he was national college scout for the Bills.

He played the game in college, where he still owns numerous receiving records at Princeton. (Offensive minded guy is a plus in my book in this day and age.)

The guy has drive and vision and experience. And he's only 39.

I think he's a pretty solid GM canidate all the way around.

And having the first pick in the draft is a nice little carrot to dangle in front of a prospective GM, especially when it's a QB like Geno Smith who has a ton of potential to be a high level NFL signal caller for a long time.
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:00 PM   #6
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There's mediocrity in most teams drafts.

The thing I like about him is he's not afraid to pull the trigger on a huge ceiling prospect like JPP and that he's managed to pull in some guys who have contributed - substantially more than what we've seen here under Pioli.

Add to it that the guy is smart (two Ivy league degrees), isn't a son of some guy from the '70's NFL and has intermed/done his time under solid, successful team oriented atmospheres.

Also, he was the Eagles Director of College Scouting back in 2000 at only 27 years old (youngest director of college scouting in the NFL) until 2004.

In between his Eagles and Giants gigs, he was national college scout for the Bills.

He played the game in college, where he still owns numerous receiving records at Princeton. (Offensive minded guy is a plus in my book in this day and age.)

The guy has drive and vision and experience. And he's only 39.

I think he's a pretty solid GM canidate all the way around.

And having the first pick in the draft is a nice little carrot to dangle in front of a prospective GM, especially when it's a QB like Geno Smith who has a ton of potential to be a high level NFL signal caller for a long time.
There's also the fact that once Clark Hunt hires the GM he completely turns over the football operations.

There really isn't a better situation for a GM in the league.
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