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Old 02-19-2013, 09:04 PM   #1
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Ironic because the top Qb's this year are hailed as middle late first round grades.
There you go, we should trade down until we get into the 20s.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:05 PM   #2
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There you go, we should trade down until we get into the 20s.
You seem to have this idea that a guy has to be drafted where he is slotted or graded.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:14 PM   #3
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You seem to have this idea that a guy has to be drafted where he is slotted or graded.
It's not generally a good idea to overpay for things.

If you look at the well-traveled draft value chart, the #1 overall is worth 3,000, and #33 is worth about one sixth of that. So, if you take someone whose true value in most years is as the first pick of round 2, you're paying 6 times sticker, in a way.

You also have to look at opportunity cost. You could have, instead of vaporizing 2,500 points in that system, collected something up to two middle of the first round picks. #15 and #16 would be of a similar score to #1.

What the team lining up in week 1 looks like is all that matters of course, but I think people see taking a late first guy at #1 overall as no big deal because he's a QB. That's a very expensive proposition.

It's not really any different than if we traded two first round picks from our usual middle draft position and took a late first guy. If it works out, maybe you look like a genius, but you should be doing far, far better for your money 9 times out of 10
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:17 PM   #4
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It's not generally a good idea to overpay for things.

If you look at the well-traveled draft value chart, the #1 overall is worth 3,000, and #33 is worth about one sixth of that. So, if you take someone whose true value in most years is as the first pick of round 2, you're paying 6 times sticker, in a way.

You also have to look at opportunity cost. You could have, instead of vaporizing 2,500 points in that system, collected something up to two middle of the first round picks. #15 and #16 would be of a similar score to #1.

What the team lining up in week 1 looks like is all that matters of course, but I think people see taking a late first guy at #1 overall as no big deal because he's a QB. That's a very expensive proposition.

It's not really any different than if we traded two first round picks from our usual middle draft position and took a late first guy. If it works out, maybe you look like a genius, but you should be doing far, far better for your money 9 times out of 10
Nobody cares about imaginary points. You don't win anything by playing an imaginary game of value. If you have the chance to lock up a potentially elite QB for little dollars, you do it.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:21 PM   #5
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Nobody cares about imaginary points. You don't win anything by playing an imaginary game of value. If you have the chance to lock up a potentially elite QB for little dollars, you do it.
If there was one for the taking, I'd be in favor of it. If we were drafting #15, any of these guys would seem like good value. If we could trade down to 10 or so, any of the leading names would be fine choices.

By squandering draft value, whether actual or potential, we're burning picks that could be used to bolster the team. We're putting all our eggs in a basket we fully acknowledge we paid several times face value for.
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If there was one for the taking, I'd be in favor of it. If we were drafting #15, any of these guys would seem like good value. If we could trade down to 10 or so, any of the leading names would be fine choices.

By squandering draft value, whether actual or potential, we're burning picks that could be used to bolster the team. We're putting all our eggs in a basket we fully acknowledge we paid several times face value for.
The best prospects will be gone by 10 or 15. Wake up.
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If there was one for the taking, I'd be in favor of it. If we were drafting #15, any of these guys would seem like good value. If we could trade down to 10 or so, any of the leading names would be fine choices.

By squandering draft value, whether actual or potential, we're burning picks that could be used to bolster the team. We're putting all our eggs in a basket we fully acknowledge we paid several times face value for.
So is the price for potentially getting a franchise QB.



And to that extent, would you rather overpay for a Qb, or a Guard, or 34DE?
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:28 PM   #8
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So is the price for potentially getting a franchise QB.



And to that extent, would you rather overpay for a Qb, or a Guard, or 34DE?
We don't have to overpay for anything. We can draft players who are the best value at the time we make the selection.

If we consistently draft for maximum draft value, draft players who survive in the league, we raise the talent level on the team, and either we hit on our QB picks, or we have draft ammo to move up sometime for a QB that's worth a high first, because we have enough talent to forego a pick and trade it away.
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