Is Belichik's ego out of control?

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Jack

I've often wondered what coaches whom many call genius would produce without stellar athletes. Without Brady, what kind of team with the pats be; Elway somewhere else and the donks would still be perennial doormats.

No shit. This is a stupid thing to wonder, because coaches don't play. Players play. The smartest coach in the world NEEDS GOOD PLAYERS.

Originally Posted by Jack

Seems that so much greatness that is put onto coaches is misplaced.

Giving any one person too much credit is misplaced. Giving full credit to a guy who isn't playing is just stupid.

Originally Posted by Jack

Gruden comes to mind, Billick (?). I think those two had more football smarts, even though for short durations. But they got the best of what they had. Not saying their teams had overachieving scrubs.

So a coach (Gruden) who only goes after veteran journeyman QB's... and a coach that stuck with Kyle Boller for several years are the guys you point to? Really?

Originally Posted by Jack

Jets took Brady out of the game for the most part and it is obvious what the results were.

The patriots went 11-5 with Matt Cassel... and Cassel was throwing for 400+ yard games too. Think about that.

Besides that, what you're saying applies to every coach. Take away anyone's star QB and they're not going to be as good. Does that really make the coach some kind of fraud?