Chiefs Dwayne Bowe/Matt Cassel - Page 10

**Rain Man** · 10-11-2010, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

If like to see Horne get a shot...how do the Colts always find these guys like Garcon and Collie?
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My guess is that there are a lot of receivers out there who can catch a ball that's thrown in their numbers. It's harder for us to find receivers because we need guys with 60-inch verticals and 12-foot arm spans. Those guys don't come along every day.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-11-2010, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

If like to see Horne get a shot...how do the Colts always find these guys like Garcon and Collie?
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Take those two out of the Indy system, and give them Matt Cassel, and they are garbage.

siberian khatru · 10-11-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

If like to see Horne get a shot...how do the Colts always find these guys like Garcon and Collie?
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Two words: Franchise. Quarterback.

**ChiTown** · 10-11-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Two words: Franchise. Quarterback.

Your WR's always look like money when your QB is a future HOF'r

Saccopoo · 10-11-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Your WR's always look like money when your QB is a future HOF'r

Yeah, but Collie was an utter stud in college. By his junior year, he held nearly every receiving record at BYU and a number of NCAA records. Soft hands, precise route running, fast, etc. Give a guy like Manning a receiver like that and shit just tends to happen. Chiefs could have had him in the fourth as he was sitting there when they picked. Instead, they went with Don Washington when they already had Carr and Flowers at CB.

The 2009 Draft left a greasy shit stain ring that's going to take a long time to scrub away.

**ChiTown** · 10-11-2010, 07:39 AM

Is there a legit reason why we haven't banned saccofgoodrinker yet? Seriously, his shit is old and stupid.

Stryker · 10-11-2010, 08:09 AM

AMEN! Both need to hit the road.

In the hands in the end zone D-R-O-P!

ChiefsCountry · 10-11-2010, 10:00 AM

Bowe will be fine. Cutting him would be stupider than trading for Cassel. He put up solid numbers with Huard and Thigpen for sakes and he made JaMarcus Russell the number one pick. He does have drop problems but so does alot of great receivers.
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**The Bad Guy** · 10-11-2010, 10:11 AM

Timely penalty?

Albert didn't hold at all on that play.

ToxSocks · 10-11-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Timely penalty?

Albert didn't hold at all on that play.

That was one of the biggest BS calls I had ever seen. And the phantom PI on Arenas.

"What? Manning missed? Had to have been PI....throw the flag.."

Christofire · 10-11-2010, 10:22 AM

I feel for Cassel in this scenario. He made the throw he needed to make to give us the lead. Then on the very next play he made the throw he needed to make to get us close to continuing that drive. Bowe dropped them both.

This is partly why Haley always harps about us not having any margin for error. You only get so many opportunities to make those big plays.

Christofire · 10-11-2010, 10:23 AM

Note: I am not apologizing for Cassel. He needs to sack up and make the next big throw, even after being let down twice in a row. So far, he hasn't shown the ability to do that, and that's on him.

ToxSocks · 10-11-2010, 10:29 AM

Well, Cassel will have his chances this Sunday with the Texans. I'm sure the Chiefs will game plan to attack the Texan's secondary like every other team has. Cassel and Bowe will have an opportunity to redeem themselves.

jettio · 10-11-2010, 11:28 AM

Cassell and Bowe converted that 4th & long on the Chiefs' last drive, and that did get them into field goal range. That play was after Chambers' drop and Cassell's goofy fumble play, so making that play was clutch.

I think the 4th and 2 on the first drive was poorly executed since Bowe had 4-5 defenders in postion to make the play. Someone else would have been ready to uncover if Cassell tried to read the defense.

The thing about Cassell is that he can make a good throw and he makes the good throw sometimes.

It does seem like he does not have the knack for making the best read, but to be honest, if Succop makes his last FG attempt, and if the Chiefs recovered the onside kick, I would have had some faith that Cassell could have lead a drive for the tying TD.

Since the Chiefs 4-3 start in 2007 turned into fool's gold after LJ's injury against Green Bay. Cassell has been a better QB than anybody else the Chiefs have tried, including Thigpen, who could put up good numbers, but who never made a key play in the 4th quarter. Thigpen always never made the play when it mattered.

Cassell has not proven that he can lead a playoff winning team, and he makes enough bad plays to make one reasonably doubt if he going to ever get there. but Cassell does make some plays.

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10-11-2010, 08:09 AM	#7
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ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1431248	Bowe will be fine. Cutting him would be stupider than trading for Cassel. He put up solid numbers with Huard and Thigpen for sakes and he made JaMarcus Russell the number one pick. He does have drop problems but so does alot of great receivers. Posted via Mobile Device
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10-11-2010, 10:11 AM	#9
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10-11-2010, 10:22 AM	#11
Christofire Aberzombie and Fitch Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southwest Kansas Casino cash: $10004950	I feel for Cassel in this scenario. He made the throw he needed to make to give us the lead. Then on the very next play he made the throw he needed to make to get us close to continuing that drive. Bowe dropped them both. This is partly why Haley always harps about us not having any margin for error. You only get so many opportunities to make those big plays.
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10-11-2010, 10:23 AM	#12
Christofire Aberzombie and Fitch Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southwest Kansas Casino cash: $10004950	Note: I am not apologizing for Cassel. He needs to sack up and make the next big throw, even after being let down twice in a row. So far, he hasn't shown the ability to do that, and that's on him.
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10-11-2010, 10:29 AM	#13
ToxSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $2103063	Well, Cassel will have his chances this Sunday with the Texans. I'm sure the Chiefs will game plan to attack the Texan's secondary like every other team has. Cassel and Bowe will have an opportunity to redeem themselves. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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10-11-2010, 11:28 AM	#15
jettio MVP Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $4504930	Cassell and Bowe converted that 4th & long on the Chiefs' last drive, and that did get them into field goal range. That play was after Chambers' drop and Cassell's goofy fumble play, so making that play was clutch. I think the 4th and 2 on the first drive was poorly executed since Bowe had 4-5 defenders in postion to make the play. Someone else would have been ready to uncover if Cassell tried to read the defense. The thing about Cassell is that he can make a good throw and he makes the good throw sometimes. It does seem like he does not have the knack for making the best read, but to be honest, if Succop makes his last FG attempt, and if the Chiefs recovered the onside kick, I would have had some faith that Cassell could have lead a drive for the tying TD. Since the Chiefs 4-3 start in 2007 turned into fool's gold after LJ's injury against Green Bay. Cassell has been a better QB than anybody else the Chiefs have tried, including Thigpen, who could put up good numbers, but who never made a key play in the 4th quarter. Thigpen always never made the play when it mattered. Cassell has not proven that he can lead a playoff winning team, and he makes enough bad plays to make one reasonably doubt if he going to ever get there. but Cassell does make some plays. __________________ Where Ignorance is Bliss, 'Tis Folly to be Wise. __
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