LJ still leading the league in rushing

[Hammock Parties]

LJ 1,202

Gore 1,177

Tomlinson 1,146

[XXXshogunXXX]

Originally Posted by dj56dt58

Right now? LT is the better all around player, and imo, LJ is the better rusher. When it's all said and done, i have no doubts that LJ will end up better

is LJ the better rusher cuz he has 60 more yards on 50 more carries than Tomlinson? and less rushing TDs?

2 games ago Tiki was better cuz he had more rushing yards, and a higher YPC than LJ.

[Crashride]

Of course no one is taking in part that we have a shitty o line and LJ and single-handley won games for us for the past 7 weeks, right lets not talk about all the factors or anything.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by XXXshogunXXX

is LJ the better rusher cuz he has 60 more yards on 50 more carries than Tomlinson? and less rushing TDs?

2 games ago Tiki was better cuz he had more rushing yards, and a higher YPC than LJ.

Pretty much every nfl expert says LJ is the best rusher in the league.. You cannot judge a rb soley on his ypc, LJ was facing 8+ man fronts earlier in the year when teams were not afraid of our passing game...

LT plays in a balanced offense, do you remember last year when the Chiefs had a balanced offense??? What kind of numbers LJ was putting up???

Its amazing what he can do with a balanced offense, just imagine if we had our line back LJ would be close to 1400yards already in Herms design...


Bottom line is LT is the best all around RB in the league... LJ just happens to be a beast of a RB, and yes a better runner then LT...


But if I had the chance to pick between the two I would go with the all around back then someone who punishes defenders with brute force, but hopefully his game keeps evolving...

[LTforMVP]

Originally Posted by Crashride

Of course no one is taking in part that we have a shitty o line and LJ and single-handley won games for us for the past 7 weeks, right lets not talk about all the factors or anything.

Yeah Im sure the Chargers would be 9-2 right now without LT, LOL

How are LTs undeniably better numbers leading to more wins less important than LJs contributions to his team

[noa]

Originally Posted by XXXshogunXXX

is LJ the better rusher cuz he has 60 more yards on 50 more carries than Tomlinson? and less rushing TDs?

2 games ago Tiki was better cuz he had more rushing yards, and a higher YPC than LJ.

Despite the thread starter, dj56dt58 is talking about his opinion of LJ as a rusher. He's not talking about statistics. You can cite all the statistics you want, but if you do that, you should be ready to argue that Dan Marino is the greatest QB of all time. You just can't establish as a fact that one of these guys is a better rusher than the other. It always comes down to opinion, and on this board, you will find plenty of people who believe that LJ is a better rusher than LT. He's just not a better all-around player (even LJ has publicly conceded on Cold Pizza that LT is a better player because of his abilities as a receiver)

[dj56dt58]

Originally Posted by LTforMVP

Yeah Im sure the Chargers would be 9-2 right now without LT, LOL

How are LTs undeniably better numbers leading to more wins less important than LJs contributions to his team

You wouldn't be 9-2 without LT. At the same time, you wouldn't even be 7-4 with Rivers out half the season, and your offensive linemen being injured, retiring, or suspended

[cdcox]

Both backs are great. LJ clearly had the better year last year, Tomlinson is having a better year this year.

Charger fans need to realize though that Chief fans are not going to be very impressed with LT as he hasn't really had very impressive games agasint us. He's like a little RB doll that we pick up off the field and put in the glove compartment of our camaro until the game is over, then we let him out. He's like a piece of chewing gum that might get stuck in our mullet. A little bit of a pain, but we can deal with it.

[Direckshun]

Is there any legitimacy in saying it's apples and oranges?

LT is the ultimate evasive back, LJ is the ultimate punisher. It doesn't seem a fair comparison, because the offenses of both teams would change drastically if the players were switched.

[XXXshogunXXX]

Originally Posted by Valiant

Pretty much every nfl expert says LJ is the best rusher in the league.. You cannot judge a rb soley on his ypc, LJ was facing 8+ man fronts earlier in the year when teams were not afraid of our passing game...

LT plays in a balanced offense, do you remember last year when the Chiefs had a balanced offense??? What kind of numbers LJ was putting up???

Its amazing what he can do with a balanced offense, just imagine if we had our line back LJ would be close to 1400yards already in Herms design...


Bottom line is LT is the best all around RB in the league... LJ just happens to be a beast of a RB, and yes a better runner then LT...


But if I had the chance to pick between the two I would go with the all around back then someone who punishes defenders with brute force, but hopefully his game keeps evolving...

which nfl experts said LJ was the better rusher, Ive read it was all Tomlinson.

Anyway, how is LJ the better rusher. LJ runs up the middle more, while Tomlinson finds the hole and jukes his way out to avoid the big hit. Tomlinson can run up the middle if the hole is there, but he could also take runs to the perimeter. He also has a quicker and more elusive juke, and can make a long run to the house at any time, while LJ is more susceptible to being taken down before he reaches the endzone. In that regard, Tomlinson is the better rusher.

He's also a better receiver, passer, blocker. As a "rusher" he has a better stiff arm and a better nose for the redzone.

LJ is a better grinder, but that isnt Tomlinsons style. So I wouldnt call him a better rusher just because of that.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by XXXshogunXXX

which nfl experts said LJ was the better rusher, Ive read it was all Tomlinson.

Anyway, how is LJ the better rusher. LJ runs up the middle more, while Tomlinson finds the hole and jukes his way out to avoid the big hit. Tomlinson can run up the middle if the hole is there, but he could also take runs to the perimeter. He also has a quicker and more elusive juke, and can make a long run to the house at any time, while LJ is more susceptible to being taken down before he reaches the endzone. In that regard, Tomlinson is the better rusher.

He's also a better receiver, passer, blocker. As a "rusher" he has a better stiff arm and a better nose for the redzone.

LJ is a better grinder, but that isnt Tomlinsons style. So I wouldnt call him a better rusher just because of that.

You just show that you haven't watched LJ very much of you think he is a grinder.

[ClevelandChief]

Originally Posted by Mecca

You do understand Tomlinsons gonna finish the year with about 34 TD's...and 2000+ total yards, I think he gets it this year.

No way Brett Farve for MVP

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by ClevelandChief

No way Brett Farve for MVP

What?

So it's no longer Huard for MVP, why wasn't I notified.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by Mecca

You do understand Tomlinsons gonna finish the year with about 34 TD's...and 2000+ total yards, I think he gets it this year.

I remember seeing priest holmes in his 'DAMN, did I just see that' days... I remember seeing ladanian tomlinson on his 'damn, that was impressive days'... priest holmes on his best day was more impressive, yet he never got the mvp--and why is that?? do I smell an east/west coast bias??

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'd just like to point out a couple of things:

LJ's game is still evolving....lest we forget the juke moves that he utilized in utterly embarrassing Gold and Wilson.

He's not searching for contact the way that Earl Campbell did. In fact, other than the Rolle facemask, I can't remember him taking a hit this year that made me cringe.

He had almost no load in high school or college, so his odometer is relatively low.

However, we do need to reduce his workload, or we risk burning him out early. This guy should be our back for the next 5 years, not the next 2.

There's no good reason why we can't use Bennett to spell him for 10-12 touches a game. I appreciate LJ's willingness to carry the load and put himself at risk for such a beating so repeatedly, but just because a guy is willing to kill himself for the team doesn't mean that you have to make him kill himself.

[Nightwish]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Ok now I'm not impressied he has almost 100 more carries than Gore and a ton more than Tomlinson while only being 30 yards ahead of Gore.. and not even 100 ahead of Tomlinson.......he has several games worth more carries and barely anymore yards......

That's not impressive to me he should be alot further ahead with that many more carries.

LT is averaging about 2 feet more per carry than LJ. In the grand scheme of things, that isn't a whole lot. And of course, LJ's total is bogged down by his relative lack of productivity during the first half of the season, when the revamped offense was still trying to find itself. If it hadn't taken him almost a third of the season to get into his normal game, he'd be tops not only on total yards, but also on yards per carry.