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Old 12-29-2007, 01:01 PM   #1
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Probably should have watched it, instead of just looking at the stats. You have to understand what he plays with and what he was doing...
I've seen enough of him this year to know he's not even worthy of a top-20 pick. But because he's a QB, he'll be the next Joey Harrington/Kyle Boller.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:03 PM   #2
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I've seen enough of him this year to know he's not even worthy of a top-20 pick. But because he's a QB, he'll be the next Joey Harrington/Kyle Boller.
That's a rather ridiculous statement, I guess no QB is ever worth a high pick unless he's Peyton Manning in your world.
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:08 PM   #3
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The Terps will also feature one of college football’s better 1-2 senior punches at RB in Lance Ball (#44, 5-9, 225) and Keon Lattimore (#21, 5-10, 225)
Oops. 19 yards rushing for the entire game, including 9 yards on an end around by a WR.
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:53 PM   #4
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You don't have to prove he's injury prone, HE IS INJURY PRONE. There is no proving to it.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:02 PM   #5
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You know what you should do...

You should pull up the list of the QB's that have won or even made the Superbowl and look at how many of them were 1st round picks....

For a position that "historically busts" there's a reason when teams repeatedly draft them high...just go look at those numbers the percentage of QB's that make the bowl being first rounders is staggering.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:30 PM   #6
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You know what you should do...

You should pull up the list of the QB's that have won or even made the Superbowl and look at how many of them were 1st round picks....

For a position that "historically busts" there's a reason when teams repeatedly draft them high...just go look at those numbers the percentage of QB's that make the bowl being first rounders is staggering.
Here's all the Super Bowl winning QBs:

Bart Starr 17th round
Joe Namath 1st round
Len Dawson 1st round (3rd team)
Unitas/Morrall (Unitas 9th round, 2nd team/Morrall 1st round, 6th team)
Roger Staubach 10th round
Bob Griese 1st round
Terry Bradshaw 1st round
Ken Stabler 2nd round
Jim Plunkett 1st round (3rd team)
Joe Montana 3rd round
Joe Theismann 4th round (sort of 2nd team -- Miami drafted him, he then played in Canada a few years)
Jim Harbaugh 1st round
Doug Williams 1st round (2nd team)
Phil Simms 1st round
Jeff Hostetler 3rd round
Mark Rypien 6th round
Troy Aikman 1st round
Steve Young 1st round (2nd team)
Brett Favre 2nd round (2nd team)
John Elway 1st round
Kurt Warner FA
Trent Dilfer 1st round (2nd team)
Tom Brady 6th round
Brad Johnson 9th round (3rd team)
Ben Roethlisberger 1st round
Peyton Manning 1st round


Looks like 15 of the 27 were 1st round picks.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:31 PM   #7
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Looks like 15 of the 27 were 1st round picks.
What about the losing QB's?

If you have the time and energy, I'm just curious.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:10 PM   #8
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McNair is and McNabb has become injury prone...Garcia is too...

A guy like Leinart going back to college has been injured 1 time in 6 years. Campbell has had 1 injury, these guys don't remotely compare to Croyle. Croyle has been injured what 5 or 6 times in 6 years?

You can't rule out college that goes into what makes someone injury prone. If a guy gets hurt once no, or has one injury plagued season, no. If you continually get hurt season in and season out, you are injury prone.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:18 PM   #9
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McNair is and McNabb has become injury prone...Garcia is too...

A guy like Leinart going back to college has been injured 1 time in 6 years. Campbell has had 1 injury, these guys don't remotely compare to Croyle. Croyle has been injured what 5 or 6 times in 6 years?

You can't rule out college that goes into what makes someone injury prone. If a guy gets hurt once no, or has one injury plagued season, no. If you continually get hurt season in and season out, you are injury prone.
So, using Leinart as an example....

If he were to miss significant time in the next 2-3 seasons, he'd be labeled as injury prone.

College would have had nothing to do with it.

Brett Favre had an injury history in college and had 30 inches of his intestines removed. We all know where the story goes from there.....

Bottom line is, it doesn't matter if they were injured in college or not. Missing time in the NFL is missing time. Period.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:11 PM   #10
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Ryan is definately a 1st round QB in any draft. Had he been drafted out of the 2005 or 2006 class, I truly believe he'd be taken behind Russell, Quinn, Young, Leinart, and Cutler.

Is he the best QB prospect to come out of the last 5 years, or even the last 2 or 3, no.

But he's going to be the best QB to come out of the draft for the next couple of seasons. He's really a solid pro-prospect, and if the Chiefs were so inclined to take a QB high in the draft, this would be the year to do it.

Todd Boeckman looks to be the best pro-prospect going into next season if that tells you anything. Now I'm not knocking Boeckman, he's been a very solid QB for OSU this season, but he's far less talented or polished than Ryan is.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:13 PM   #11
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It's nice to wanna believe in Brodie Croyle but to say "oh college doesn't count!" when the college game isn't as fast or as brutal as the NFL game and he couldn't even last there is pretty funny.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:17 PM   #12
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I'm truly not a proponent of taking a QB in the first round, but if the organization feels so inclined, then Ryan is the guy to take.

I'd be much happier drafting an OT or DT. I'd take Sedrick Ellis, Dorsey, or Long(pending bowl performace and combine) over Ryan.

That being said, if he ignites some sort of spark under the Chiefs' collective asses, and we take him, I suppose I won't be too upset.

Cherilius and Baker may still be around in the early 2nd, I doubt Baker will, but it's a possibility.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:23 PM   #13
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Brett Favre has never once missed an NFL start however....Croyle already has...

When you say benefit of the doubt, to me guys like Leinart get it because this is the first time he's ever gotten injured. When Croyle gets hurt you just expect it because he always does.

Every single Brodie Croyle scouting report said he needed to gain weight and show he was durable because at this point his injury history is a major concern. That he'd most likely be a backup if he couldn't fix those things...

So far he is the same size and is showing he isn't durable.

You give the benefit of the doubt to guys who generally don't get injured, not the guys who get hurt all the time.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:31 PM   #14
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If you do it for the losing teams, the number gets even more staggering.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:35 PM   #15
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The Packers in theory used a 1st rounder on Favre because that was what they traded for him which at the time was the same as using one on a QB.
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