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Old 09-14-2016, 08:25 AM  
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Chiefs release KeiVarae Russell
Rand Gettlin-I'm told the #Chiefs have released defensive back KeiVarae Russell. Special teams numbers game. Super talented player. Likely to be claimed.

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Old 09-14-2016, 10:17 AM   #151
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It's not like this was a big reach, either. Most scouting reports had him projected as going in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.
Oh I know and I didn't knock Dorsey at the time. I just think this whole surprising and sucks to cut a third round pick, is bad for Russell. Teams will ask: why did KC cut a third round pick? Now someone will probably claim him because of where he was picked but he didn't show anything so it's more of a leap of faith than anything else.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:18 AM   #152
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I heard before the season started there are more Undrafted FA players in the league now than there are 1st and 2nd round draft picks.

Thats a pretty telling statistic on the complexity and crapshoot of the draft.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:21 AM   #153
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We're going to see more and more of this moving forward, as the Chiefs will have more draft picks than spots available due to the quality of the roster.
This.

Just because you draft a guy doesn't mean he's gonna make the team or that he's better than what's on the roster. After drafting as many DB's as we did, we had to know at least one would be cut.

This was a ballsy move by Dorsey, and with an improving roster i expect more of this.

Long gone are the days in which every pick is guaranteed a spot. We're simply not that talentless anymore.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:21 AM   #154
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Smith never got smoked like that in Sutton's scheme. I think it was an issue of putting a square peg in a round hole. That was on the coaches.
Smith wasn't 29 years old in Sutton's scheme, either.

Look at Revis last year (and this year): He's a shell of his former self.

The wheels fall off at 29 for CB's more often than not. Cooks was at least a yard ahead of Smith in pursuit.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:22 AM   #155
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Was he suspended for cheating at Notre Dame?
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:23 AM   #156
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I don't get it. Even if he really is terrible you don't just go and cut your own third round pick that YOU made. I bet he goes somewhere and plays well.
So, he'll suddenly "Flip a Switch" if he's claimed by another team?

I think that's highly unlikely.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:23 AM   #157
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Cut a 3rd round pick added 6 mil in cap space. Who are we trading for fellas?
certainly seems like something is coming
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:25 AM   #158
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Was he suspended for cheating at Notre Dame?
Going back to this, yes, he was suspended for academic fraud. Terez Paylor also indicated that Russell was having problems with the terminology, which was supposedly the reason why he was behind.

Pure speculation but if you put 2 and 2 together, maybe he has a learning disability, which led to cheating and his issue with terminology.

Just a guess.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:26 AM   #159
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I'm not suggesting this is the case but didn't we cut and then resign a couple of players to the roster multiple times last season? I wonder if Dorsey tries to extend his roster based on the week's opponent?
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:27 AM   #160
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So, he'll suddenly "Flip a Switch" if he's claimed by another team?

I think that's highly unlikely.
I think he's actually a good player Dane. Hence his high draft rating. Perhaps the whole world was wrong about him
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Also, lets not pretend that this is some sort of habit of Dorsey's. This idea that the scouting department is failing is dumb considering Dorsey has found some jewels in the 3rd that have stuck around just fine...
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Going back to this, yes, he was suspended for academic fraud. Terez Paylor also indicated that Russell was having problems with the terminology, which was supposedly the reason why he was behind.

Pure speculation but if you put 2 and 2 together, maybe he has a learning disability, which led to cheating and his issue with terminology.

Just a guess.
That's kind of where I was going, but I wasn't sure he was involved. It could be that he just can't make the mental leap from ND to the scheme Sutton runs. Or it could outline some character issues as well.
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I'm not suggesting this is the case but didn't we cut and then resign a couple of players to the roster multiple times last season? I wonder if Dorsey tries to extend his roster based on the week's opponent?
As I mentioned earlier, had Moses been on the 53 for Week 1, his salary would have been guaranteed for the entire season.

By signing him in Week 2, they can release and re-sign him at any time and only owe him one week's salary.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:28 AM   #164
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I never did like that kid's holdout, if we are lucky enough to put him on the PS this might turn out to be a good move. Not only that, but it sends a msg to the rest of the players.
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I think he's actually a good player Dane. Hence his high draft rating. Perhaps the whole world was wrong about him
Those two are mutually exclusive: Draft position does not equal being a good player.

By that measure, an undrafted college free agent like Charcandrick West isn't a good player because he wasn't drafted.
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