That's it. I'm freaking done with these idiots. - Page 12

**Rain Man** · 11-18-2007, 07:33 PM

Back in the 1970s, our teams were bad. They lost games. They got soundly beaten by opponents. But you know what? I could live with it. The teams back then at least tried to win.

Now? I love this team. Love it. We've got massive talent on defense. We've got top-notch players on offense. We've got a new quarterback who can win, and we've got a potential superstar at wide receiver and legitimate superstarts at tight end and running back.

And we've got a coach who is biggest freaking idiot this side of Paul Hackett.

The last time I was this mad about a loss was against Indianapolis in 1995, when we lost home field in the playoffs because of the worst game plan, or rather lack of a game plan, in football history. And now we're repeating it on a weekly basis.

It's the fourth quarter. The score is tied. The best quarterback in the game is on the other sideline. And we freaking concede a drive? We don't even TRY to get a first down? We punt the ball to the most productive offense of the decade? Both teams had one opportunity to win the game, and our stupid, idiotic, moronic, imbecilic coaching staff VOLUNTARILY GAVE OUR CHANCE AWAY! THEY SAID, "WE DON'T WANT TO TRY TO SCORE, SO LET'S PLAY FOR A TIE AND PUNT IT PEYTON FREAKING MANNING." What sort of intellectual plant life would you have to be to do that? They voluntarily reduced our chances of winning to zero, and for no reason.

AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH! I'm so mad about this that I can't stand it. They do this every freaking week. We have perhaps ten chances to score in a game, and they VOLUNTARILY give up on half of them! How does someone do this and keep their job? If I owned that team, that freaking coach-in-name-only would not get on the plane to come home. He would pay his own way back, and I would mail his office stuff to him in a box. I'd give the Arrowhead guards pepper spray and a picture of his unibrowed visage of confusion.

I can't do this any more. Just can't. This was the last straw. This was stupidity at it's finest. This was building the freaking Egyptian pyramids of stupidity. This was stupidity that will stand as a shining example of the art for the next four thousand years. Stupid scholars will study this game plan and write dissertations about it. It was miss-the-$100-question-on-Who- Wants-To-Be-A-Millionaire-after- using-all-of-your-lifelines stupid.

This is a good team. This is a strong team. This team could be very, very good if they were allowed to be. And you know what? Just trade them all. Trade them and stock up draft picks for a possible time when the stupid ownership of this team finally sells it to someone who will fire the stupid Haile Selassie president-for-life general manager and hire someone who will in turn fire the stupid "I think we get points for close losses" coaching staff, and then when those things happen maybe we can use those picks to field a competitive team. Until Herman Edwards is gone, and all photographs of his slackjawed RCA-Victor-Dog-Looking-At-Victrola face have been burned, just pile up picks and use semi-pro players, because the end result will be the same.

If I was Tony Gonzalez or Derrick Johnson or Jared Allen, I would go to Clark Hunt's office with a sleeping bag and I would not leave there until there's a regime change. Don't waste your career playing for piece of garbage idiot like Herm Edwards who can't even fathom trying to win a game.

Three drives! At least three drives where we just intentionally folded up. Didn't even try! "Eh, who cares? Just run for a few yards and punt it. Who cares?" Did these people never watch Joe Montana in the Super Bowl against Cincinnati? Do they not understand that the team with the most points wins? Where is the understanding here, people! Where?!?!?!?!

I HATE YOU, HERMAN EDWARDS! HATE! HATE, HATE, HATE! No, no. It's more than hate! Far more than hate. It's outright despisal!

YOU PLAY...TO WIN...THE GAME! YOU PLAY...TO WIN...THE GAME!

I don't know if I can communicate this any more clearly. This coach has to be removed from power, using any means possible. I'm 44 years old. I don't want to have to concede five more seasons of giving away wins while I wait. He has to go now! NOW! NOW!!!!

**Donger** · 11-18-2007, 10:30 PM

Somewhere, LBJ is saying, "If we've lost Rain Man, we've lost the war."

Zouk · 11-18-2007, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

There are plenty of people out there than can coach better defense..

I must have missed all those teams that held the Colts to 13 (3 of which came off a 10 yard field) in the RCA dome.

And I'm no relation to Herm or anyone else on the staff. Just an evangelizer.

**Iowanian** · 11-18-2007, 10:33 PM

I'd like to see bRainman's rundown of this bomber mission over hostile territory.

Something tells me the tailgunner's hatch is blown out from under him as he dangles from his belt, and is dragged to death as the plane crash-lands in a French Thorn field.

**dirk digler** · 11-18-2007, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zouk

If Herm gets fired, we'll never get a coach who can bring D like this again.

He set out to fix the D first (which was terrible when he arrived, we remember) and he fixed it.

This offseason, he will overturn the O to be 1 that can consistently get 20-24 points. If we have that, we'll get home playoff games.

Harrison didn't play in the Pats game either, and the Colts almost beat them. I don't think we should be minimizing what the Chiefs accomplished today. We're on the way, I can see what we're building. Taking this talent into Indy and having a chance to win is a big deal.

This D has a long way to go to get fixed.

The Broncos B team hung 27 pts against us and the Packers put up 33.

We played the junior varsity Colts team today and we got close to winning big deal.

Herm has never won more than 10 games in his career he is a failure and he never fixed the Jets O and I don't expect him to do it here.

bobbything · 11-18-2007, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zouk

The chance of our offense converting 3rd and 18 on the road is less than 10%.

I'd bet next year's salary that the chance of converting 3rd and 18 on the road is even less than 10% when running a draw.

MadMax · 11-18-2007, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler

This D has a long way to go to get fixed.

The Broncos B team hung 27 pts against us and the Packers put up 33.

We played the junior varsity Colts team today and we got close to winning big deal.

Herm has never won more than 10 games in his career he is a failure and he never fixed the Jets O and I don't expect him to do it here.

Why bother replying to Herms son???

stevieray · 11-18-2007, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler

The Broncos B team hung 27 pts against us

wrong.

**dirk digler** · 11-18-2007, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray

wrong.

sorry 20 pts forgot about the fumble return

still we lost at home to a completely inferior team and the game really wasn't that close after halftime

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-18-2007, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zouk

Belichick coached different in Cleveland, and Dungy coached different in Tampa. You guys have the chicken and egg situation turned on its head. The players determine the playcalling, not the other way around.

Dumbass.

Then why does Herm insist on using a Cover 2 everywhere? Why did he take a team that ran a 3-4 very well in NY, with physical corners who did well in press coverage, and change them to a 4-3, Cover 2 team when he had the same fucking players as the year before??

MadMax · 11-18-2007, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zouk

I must have missed all those teams that held the Colts to 13 (3 of which came off a 10 yard field) in the RCA dome.

And I'm no relation to Herm or anyone else on the staff. Just an evangelizer.

We had our shots, but we never took them....I thought we would lose but to give up is unexcuseable...I do not think this coaching could win games no matter the talent..and that is scary..spin away Herm jr.

Zouk · 11-18-2007, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler

The Broncos B team hung 27 pts against us and the Packers put up 33.

14 of which came off our offense.

Which is why we have to run 3rd and long draws.

CoMoChief · 11-18-2007, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lbedrock1

You mean like the patriots?

Yes, they are a great example. Going for it on 4th and 2 or less. WANTING to score a TD on every drive, which should be the goal of any offense that takes the field.

Zouk · 11-18-2007, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Dumbass.

Then why does Herm insist on using a Cover 2 everywhere? Why did he take a team that ran a 3-4 very well in NY, with physical corners who did well in press coverage, and change them to a 4-3, Cover 2 team when he had the same fucking players as the year before??

Pre-Herm 2000 Jets gave up 321 points.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...mstats2000.htm

2001 Jets gave up 295 points.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...mstats2001.htm

Too bad your ability to call names doesn't make you righter. Try harder!

(And according to David Gibbs, DB coach we play Cover 2 on about a third of all snaps - from Soren Petro's podcast about a month ago)

**the Talking Can** · 11-18-2007, 11:05 PM

Rainman, read Poz's column...he confirms your point, insiders saying the same thing:

Quote:

“We’re playing the Super Bowl champs, and we’re not going to take even one shot to win the game?” one of those Chiefs grumblers asked. “That’s who we are now?”

teedubya · 11-18-2007, 11:06 PM

Rainman, this ain't arena football, now. Obviously, we need to score more points, obviously. Its flustrating when your not scoring. But it's OK. Its OK. its ok

View Poll Results: In what manner would you like to see Herm Edwards fired? (Multiple choice)
Push him out of the plane over Illinois.	22	26.83%
Take his airline ticket and make him hitchhike...in a skirt.	15	18.29%
As opposed to merely firing him, set the idiot on fire.	15	18.29%
Tie him to Paul Hackett and force them to beat each other to death.	17	20.73%
Nukes, special forces, anything. How it happens doesn't matter.	19	23.17%
Be professional and just fire him in his office. With a big stick with a nail in it.	14	17.07%
It cannot stop at Herman Edwards. We have to exterminate the whole front office roachbed.	38	46.34%
Actually, I'm thrilled with Herman Edwards' "it's a win if you're within seven points" philosophy.	11	13.41%
Trade him to the Raiders by telling Al Davis that he throws the ball downfield.	18	21.95%
Hold a big team meeting and fire him in front of everybody, and make him walk out dragging the Boulder of Shame.	26	31.71%
I have some other plan for firing him, described in my post.	5	6.10%
I haven't yet decided if his "play to lose close" philosophy is a problem, and I can't feed myself.	12	14.63%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

11-18-2007, 07:33 PM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-452449 VARSITY	That's it. I'm freaking done with these idiots. Back in the 1970s, our teams were bad. They lost games. They got soundly beaten by opponents. But you know what? I could live with it. The teams back then at least tried to win. Now? I love this team. Love it. We've got massive talent on defense. We've got top-notch players on offense. We've got a new quarterback who can win, and we've got a potential superstar at wide receiver and legitimate superstarts at tight end and running back. And we've got a coach who is biggest freaking idiot this side of Paul Hackett. The last time I was this mad about a loss was against Indianapolis in 1995, when we lost home field in the playoffs because of the worst game plan, or rather lack of a game plan, in football history. And now we're repeating it on a weekly basis. It's the fourth quarter. The score is tied. The best quarterback in the game is on the other sideline. And we freaking concede a drive? We don't even TRY to get a first down? We punt the ball to the most productive offense of the decade? Both teams had one opportunity to win the game, and our stupid, idiotic, moronic, imbecilic coaching staff VOLUNTARILY GAVE OUR CHANCE AWAY! THEY SAID, "WE DON'T WANT TO TRY TO SCORE, SO LET'S PLAY FOR A TIE AND PUNT IT PEYTON FREAKING MANNING." What sort of intellectual plant life would you have to be to do that? They voluntarily reduced our chances of winning to zero, and for no reason. AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH! I'm so mad about this that I can't stand it. They do this every freaking week. We have perhaps ten chances to score in a game, and they VOLUNTARILY give up on half of them! How does someone do this and keep their job? If I owned that team, that freaking coach-in-name-only would not get on the plane to come home. He would pay his own way back, and I would mail his office stuff to him in a box. I'd give the Arrowhead guards pepper spray and a picture of his unibrowed visage of confusion. I can't do this any more. Just can't. This was the last straw. This was stupidity at it's finest. This was building the freaking Egyptian pyramids of stupidity. This was stupidity that will stand as a shining example of the art for the next four thousand years. Stupid scholars will study this game plan and write dissertations about it. It was miss-the-$100-question-on-Who- Wants-To-Be-A-Millionaire-after- using-all-of-your-lifelines stupid. This is a good team. This is a strong team. This team could be very, very good if they were allowed to be. And you know what? Just trade them all. Trade them and stock up draft picks for a possible time when the stupid ownership of this team finally sells it to someone who will fire the stupid Haile Selassie president-for-life general manager and hire someone who will in turn fire the stupid "I think we get points for close losses" coaching staff, and then when those things happen maybe we can use those picks to field a competitive team. Until Herman Edwards is gone, and all photographs of his slackjawed RCA-Victor-Dog-Looking-At-Victrola face have been burned, just pile up picks and use semi-pro players, because the end result will be the same. If I was Tony Gonzalez or Derrick Johnson or Jared Allen, I would go to Clark Hunt's office with a sleeping bag and I would not leave there until there's a regime change. Don't waste your career playing for piece of garbage idiot like Herm Edwards who can't even fathom trying to win a game. Three drives! At least three drives where we just intentionally folded up. Didn't even try! "Eh, who cares? Just run for a few yards and punt it. Who cares?" Did these people never watch Joe Montana in the Super Bowl against Cincinnati? Do they not understand that the team with the most points wins? Where is the understanding here, people! Where?!?!?!?! I HATE YOU, HERMAN EDWARDS! HATE! HATE, HATE, HATE! No, no. It's more than hate! Far more than hate. It's outright despisal! YOU PLAY...TO WIN...THE GAME! YOU PLAY...TO WIN...THE GAME! I don't know if I can communicate this any more clearly. This coach has to be removed from power, using any means possible. I'm 44 years old. I don't want to have to concede five more seasons of giving away wins while I wait. He has to go now! NOW! NOW!!!!
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teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9003042	Rainman, this ain't arena football, now. Obviously, we need to score more points, obviously. Its flustrating when your not scoring. But it's OK. Its OK. its ok
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