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Old 07-14-2012, 01:35 PM   #1
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I'm far more trusting of the QB who consistently throws for 200-some yards to score TDs than the one who only musters up 85.
I'm not trusting of either.

At the end of the day Cassel has won more. At the end of the day, there's a reason Orton is a back up QB.

But most importantly, I'm happy that neither will likely be the QB next year. Because if Orton had re-signed, we'd likely be stuck with him.
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:42 PM   #2
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At the end of the day Cassel has won more. At the end of the day, there's a reason Orton is a back up QB.
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Only because he has played on better teams.

Those teams won mostly in spite of Cassel.

Put him on the 2010 Broncos, with their #32 defense, and see how many games the ****er wins.
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Old 07-14-2012, 04:27 PM   #3
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I'm not trusting of either.

At the end of the day Cassel has won more. At the end of the day, there's a reason Orton is a back up QB.

But most importantly, I'm happy that neither will likely be the QB next year. Because if Orton had re-signed, we'd likely be stuck with him.
One is better than the other. It doesn't have to be significant, but the difference between the two is clear.

You're really not making any big points by saying "They both suck". No ****ing shit.
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:30 PM   #4
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Best way to score touchdowns? Score touchdowns.

I couldn't care less if Orton throws 600 yard every game. He's proven every single year that he's a terrible red zone QB and a terrible 3rd down QB. Score touchdowns or GTFO.
He never had a running game in Denver.

He would be a lot better in Kansas City. We wouldn't lose games at home to the ****ing Tim Tebows of the world.

There is really no comparison between Cassel and Orton. Not remotely the same.
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:33 PM   #5
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He never had a running game in Denver.

He would be a lot better in Kansas City. We wouldn't lose games at home to the ****ing Tim Tebows of the world.

There is really no comparison between Cassel and Orton. Not remotely the same.
Yeah, you're right. One's a starter and one's a back up.
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:36 PM   #6
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Yeah, you're right. One's a starter and one's a back up.
Which?

Both are high-quality backups. Nothing more.
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:41 PM   #7
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Best way to score touchdowns? Score touchdowns.
Since you asked for it.

2009 Chiefs - 26 TD
2010 Chiefs - 40 TD

2009 Broncos - 30 TD
2010 Broncos - 38 TD

ORTON WINS AGAIN BABY!
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:53 PM   #8
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A couple seasons is an eternity. Bowe is reformed. Completely.

And if you don't think race enters into it, you're wrong. If Bowe was white, shit, all the hillbillies in Missouri would love his ass. He'd be a legend.

Anyone who has a little bit of "gangsta thug" in them has always been given a raw deal by this fanbase.
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:56 PM   #9
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A couple seasons is an eternity. Bowe is reformed. Completely.

And if you don't think race enters into it, you're wrong. If Bowe was white, shit, all the hillbillies in Missouri would love his ass. He'd be a legend.

Anyone who has a little bit of "gangsta thug" in them has always been given a raw deal by this fanbase.
Bowe may be reformed. But you don't know that, so stop pretending like it's a fact.
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:59 PM   #10
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Bowe may be reformed. But you don't know that, so stop pretending like it's a fact.
He's been hanging out with Larry Fitzgerald for three years. His coach is Romeo Crennel, a guy no black player wants to disappoint. He's not gonna regress.
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:10 PM   #11
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Bowe may be reformed. But you don't know that, so stop pretending like it's a fact.
You don't know he's not. The guy has had two entire seasons to change his attitude and work habits and he has hit all green lights.

I have no idea what more Bowe can do to win over people who think he hasn't irrevocably changed himself.

This isn't like maintaining a healthy and cautious distrust of Jared Allen one full year removed from his 2nd DUI. That's dealing with alcoholism. Showboating and attitude isn't alcholism.

Two years of no showboating and saying and doing ALL the right things is enough. When is it ever not?
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:12 PM   #12
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You don't know he's not. The guy has had two entire seasons to change his attitude and work habits and he has hit all green lights.

I have no idea what more Bowe can do to win over people who think he hasn't irrevocably changed himself.

This isn't like maintaining a healthy and cautious distrust of Jared Allen one full year removed from his 2nd DUI. That's dealing with alcoholism. Showboating and attitude isn't alcholism.

Two years of no showboating and saying and doing ALL the right things is enough. When is it ever not?
We don't have the perspective from inside the locker room. The fact is, that Pioli has more information to make a more informed decision than we can as to his reformation.
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:14 PM   #13
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We don't have the perspective from inside the locker room. The fact is, that Pioli has more information to make a more informed decision than we can as to his reformation.
So, we should blindly trust Pioli's judgement.

Matt Cassel agrees with you.
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:19 PM   #14
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We don't have the perspective from inside the locker room. The fact is, that Pioli has more information to make a more informed decision than we can as to his reformation.
So his inspirational twitter updates, his private autograph-signing sessions he sets up all by himself, and his finely-tuned disciplined attitude on the practice field are all just for show? He's actually a locker room cancer who pisses off the other players and coaches when no cameras are around? He's doing it to be an evil asshole to Pioli, who will face the pressure to either overpay him or let him go to a high-life team like New York or Dallas?
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Orton is considered to be the best backup QB in the NFL right now.... One mess up and Romo will be on the bench.
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