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Old 07-14-2012, 08:31 PM   #1
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Old 07-14-2012, 04:55 PM   #2
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Old 07-14-2012, 04:58 PM   #3
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That's why you ahve Charles and Hillis.
Yeah, that's nice, but then we're back into the Cassel zone where the QB has to rely on his teammates to bail him out.

Why should Charles and Hillis have more responsibility in the redzone than the damn QB?
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Old 07-14-2012, 04:58 PM   #4
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Yeah, that's nice, but then we're back into the Cassel zone where the QB has to rely on his teammates to bail him out.

Why should Charles and Hillis have more responsibility in the redzone than the damn QB?
Who cares? We'd win 11 games and be a top 10 offense.

Orton couldn't **** this up if he tried.
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Old 07-14-2012, 05:05 PM   #5
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People said the same things about Trent Green before he got in the driver's seat of one of the most talented offenses in the league.

All Trent had to do was drive the machine, and let Tony and Priest do the heavy lifting.

Orton would drive the machine and let Charles, Bowe, Moeaki and Baldwin do the heavy lifting.
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Old 07-14-2012, 05:06 PM   #6
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It really is a fool's gold argument, because Orton would lose to Tom Brady or whoever in the playoffs, but it bugs me that anyone would say Orton and Cassel are the same guy.

We would have beaten the Ravens with Orton.
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Old 07-14-2012, 06:39 PM   #7
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:58 PM   #8
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Clay is kicking the shit out of this page.

I can't believe my eyes.

I totally agree that the chasm between Orton and Cassel is as big as the grand canyon.

Orton moved the ball and the offense immediately showed up.

Our defense rested and were able to adjustments because Orton extended drives.

The most impressive part of that, to me, was that he did it without a running game.

The absolute best option this offseason was re-signing Orton...cutting Cassel and drafting a kid in the first round with full intension of sitting him one full year before opening a competition for starter in year two.

Then, they wouldnt have straight lied to us with the whole "increased quarterback competition" talk.

Giving us Brady Quinn is a slap in the face and insult to the fanbases intelligence.

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Old 07-14-2012, 08:13 PM   #9
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Clay is kicking the shit out of this page.

I can't believe my eyes.

I totally agree that the chasm between Orton and Cassel is as big as the grand canyon.

Orton moved the ball and the offense immediately showed up.

Our defense rested and were able to adjustments because Orton extended drives.

The most impressive part of that, to me, was that he did it without a running game.

The absolute best option this offseason was re-signing Orton...cutting Cassel and drafting a kid in the first round with full intension of sitting him one full year before opening a competition for starter in year two.

Then, they wouldnt have straight lied to us with the whole "increased quarterback competition" talk.

Giving us Brady Quinn is a slap in the face and insult to the fanbases intelligence.

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Old 07-14-2012, 08:26 PM   #10
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Orton wasn't in KC long enough for the honeymoon period to wear off. The guy is waaaay too cautious with the ball and has zero pocket presence. He sucks in the redzone because he isn't willing to throw the ball into tight spots. Orton had to have led the league in passes thrown out of bounds.
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There was actually a point in Orton's career in Denver where I kind of envied Matt Cassel's mobility. Orton didn't earn the name "Pocket Sloth" for nothing.
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There was actually a point in Orton's career in Denver where I kind of envied Matt Cassel's mobility. Orton didn't earn the name "Pocket Sloth" for nothing.
Despite this, he is sacked less than Cassel over the last 37 games.

Cassel's pocket presence is worse than his passing.
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:32 PM   #13
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Despite this, he is sacked less than Cassel over the last 37 games.

Cassel's pocket presence is worse than his passing.
Orton loses more yards per sack than Cassel does. Cassel also has much more rushing yards than Orton. Cassel had more yards in 10 games last year than Orton has had in any season. Orton wishes he could have Cassel's mobility.
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:35 PM   #14
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Orton loses more yards per sack than Cassel does. Cassel also has much more rushing yards than Orton. Cassel had more yards in 10 games last year than Orton has had in any season. Orton wishes he could have Cassel's mobility.
A sack is a sack. The less it happens, the better.

No one gives a **** about rushing yards. Cassel only racks up rushing yards because he can't/won't throw the ball to someone and panics.

Any extra rushing yards Cassel adds, Orton compensates for easily with his stellar 249 YPG average.
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A sack is a sack. The less it happens, the better.

No one gives a **** about rushing yards. Cassel only racks up rushing yards because he can't/won't throw the ball to someone and panics.

Any extra rushing yards Cassel adds, Orton compensates for easily with 249 YPG.
And Cassel is compensates with more TDs.


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