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Old 02-28-2025, 09:27 PM   #1
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No one is trading a first rounder or a high second rounder for Smith. I think a best case, maybe close to a minor miracle, would be a mid-2nd rounder. I think the more likely scenario with the Bears or Patriots is swapping pick positioning so that we move up in some of the rounds that we are in (but not the first) without netting any new picks or a late round one.
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Old 02-28-2025, 11:46 PM   #2
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No one is trading a first rounder or a high second rounder for Smith. I think a best case, maybe close to a minor miracle, would be a mid-2nd rounder. I think the more likely scenario with the Bears or Patriots is swapping pick positioning so that we move up in some of the rounds that we are in (but not the first) without netting any new picks or a late round one.
I wouldn't be so sure.

The FA market isn't just bad for us. The Bears need OLine help badly. They have 78M in cap space and picks. 10, 39, 41, 72, 149, 197, 235, and 242. They can trade for Smith and still have a full compliment of draft picks. They have absolutling nothing going on at guard.
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Old 03-01-2025, 03:16 AM   #3
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I wouldn't be so sure.

The FA market isn't just bad for us. The Bears need OLine help badly. They have 78M in cap space and picks. 10, 39, 41, 72, 149, 197, 235, and 242. They can trade for Smith and still have a full compliment of draft picks. They have absolutling nothing going on at guard.
Pick 41 and a day 3 swap or two would make Veach look like a genius. Like the Sneed trade last year the tag doesn't guarantee Trey Smith will be playing in a Chiefs uniform next year. I do recall they tried to work out a deal with Sneed as well before giving him permission to talk to other teams.
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Old 03-01-2025, 03:42 AM   #4
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New idea... Send Smith to Chicago for Braxton Jones and a swap of 63 for 41. Basically equivalent to getting their 3rd but nobody loses a draft pick.

Poles wants competition at LT at minimum and they are in a prime spot to take Simmons at #10. Jones is far better than anyone on the market, he's just been knicked up a bit the last couple of seasons.

Gotta take a shot somehow. **** it.
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Old 03-01-2025, 05:12 AM   #5
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New idea... Send Smith to Chicago for Braxton Jones and a swap of 63 for 41. Basically equivalent to getting their 3rd but nobody loses a draft pick.

Poles wants competition at LT at minimum and they are in a prime spot to take Simmons at #10. Jones is far better than anyone on the market, he's just been knicked up a bit the last couple of seasons.

Gotta take a shot somehow. **** it.
Surely unlikely they'd move off a very solid and young LT for the draft gamble of another one? Even if they get Smith. But man, I'd take it!
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Old 03-01-2025, 08:31 AM   #6
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New idea... Send Smith to Chicago for Braxton Jones and a swap of 63 for 41. Basically equivalent to getting their 3rd but nobody loses a draft pick.

Poles wants competition at LT at minimum and they are in a prime spot to take Simmons at #10. Jones is far better than anyone on the market, he's just been knicked up a bit the last couple of seasons.

Gotta take a shot somehow. **** it.
In.

I'm not sure we could get that swap made as well. If anything I wonder if we wouldn't have to sweeten the pot a bit given that Jones has a cheap year of control in 2025.

But yeah, I'm doing that in a heartbeat and giving him a 5 year extension without blinking.
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Old 03-01-2025, 08:36 AM   #7
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New idea... Send Smith to Chicago for Braxton Jones and a swap of 63 for 41. Basically equivalent to getting their 3rd but nobody loses a draft pick.

Poles wants competition at LT at minimum and they are in a prime spot to take Simmons at #10. Jones is far better than anyone on the market, he's just been knicked up a bit the last couple of seasons.

Gotta take a shot somehow. **** it.
**** yeah. In a heartbeat.

And it's plausible.
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Old 03-01-2025, 09:04 AM   #8
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**** yeah. In a heartbeat.

And it's plausible.
What if we had to give our 4th rather than get a pick swap?

Our 3rd?

I think I'm probably still in either way. But at a point you do need to take some of the injury issues into account.

That's one thing we really haven't dealt with much in the Mahomes era -- expensive guys being injured.
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Old 03-01-2025, 08:50 AM   #9
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New idea... Send Smith to Chicago for Braxton Jones and a swap of 63 for 41. Basically equivalent to getting their 3rd but nobody loses a draft pick.

Poles wants competition at LT at minimum and they are in a prime spot to take Simmons at #10. Jones is far better than anyone on the market, he's just been knicked up a bit the last couple of seasons.

Gotta take a shot somehow. **** it.
See, Balto, this is how you do it.
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Old 03-01-2025, 01:12 PM   #10
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New idea... Send Smith to Chicago for Braxton Jones and a swap of 63 for 41. Basically equivalent to getting their 3rd but nobody loses a draft pick.

Poles wants competition at LT at minimum and they are in a prime spot to take Simmons at #10. Jones is far better than anyone on the market, he's just been knicked up a bit the last couple of seasons.

Gotta take a shot somehow. **** it.
This is very similar to my thought with Jacksonville and Walker Little. Little was 8th on both of those lists for LT's that you posted a couple of days ago. Right where the LT from the Rams was rated.

It's a good plan on either front IMO. Jones or Little.
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Old 03-01-2025, 08:25 AM   #11
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The backup LT for the Bears played really well the last five games of the season and Jones is in his contract year. Their RG is a FA and was garbage last year. It's a perfect scenario for a trade.
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Old 03-01-2025, 08:52 AM   #12
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That would be a pretty Veachy move no doubt. I don’t think they actually plan to move on from Trey, but if they did, I love getting a proven commodity.
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Old 03-01-2025, 10:34 AM   #13
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Still a strange move. Only a looming extension makes sense to me right now. I just don’t see the guard tag trade and pay.
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Surely they aren’t gonna have the highest paid c and the highest paid g

Just doesn’t seem like a smart move
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Old 03-01-2025, 03:57 PM   #15
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Surely they aren’t gonna have the highest paid c and the highest paid g

Just doesn’t seem like a smart move
Don't we already have pretty much that right now with Thuney and Creed? But Thuney's deal is almost up and he'll retire soon-either way.

And if your top two WR's are years away from an extension, with your HOF TE probably going one, two years more tops-why does it matter?

Keeping your good offensive linemen seems like a perfectly smart thing to do as long as it's not problematic elsewhere.

And it's not.

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