Why I want Mike Martz to be the Chiefs next HC

[FloridaMan88]

My reasoning:

1) For all the talk that Martz is a bad coach, he has a 53-32 record as a head coach, and a 3-4 career playoff record. Gregg Williams has a 17-31 career head coaching record. It would be hard pressed to find any prospective coach who is going to be available this offseason (and I still think Fisher stays in Tennessee) with the NFL head coaching record that Martz has.

2) Martz would keep the basis of the Chiefs' current successful offensive system in place and would probably enhance the passing game by upgrading the WR position, making the Chiefs passing game more explosive. Also Martz and Trent Green have a history together and a positive relationship, which is important considering Trent will probably be the Chiefs starting QB for another 2 seasons at least IMO.

3) Martz has a proven track record of developing QBs (see Trent Green, which goes back to his days in Washington, Kurt Warner and Marc Bulger) and would be able to develop a young QB to eventually replace Trent Green.

4) All the gushing over Gregg Williams, people are forgetting how horrible he was as a head coach in Buffalo. That 3rd year where he had the players in place on defense that he had wanted, the Bills completely fell apart, finishing 6-10. All he's proven in Washington is that he's a good defensive coordinator, but nothing that would suggest he would be a better head coach if he were given a second chance.

5) Looking at college ranks, really no one stands out to me. I don't think Carroll will leave USC this offseason and I don't think Stoops would make a good NFL head coach (especially considering he is overrated as a college coach, see how Pete Caroll and Nick Saban toyed with and humiliated him in the Orange Bowl and Sugar Bowl the past 2 years). Not to mention, also that Stoops has zero NFL coaching experience.

6) I think Martz could be a guy who helps turn around the Chiefs defense. After his first year as head coach of the Rams, he led the Rams focus that offseason towards dramatically improving their defense, and he hired Lovie Smith to be DC. The following season the Rams finished in the top 10 in total defense and allowed 200 less points that season than they did the season before (second most dramatic improvement in NFL history). I'm not arguing that Martz was the main reason behind that improvement and I'm sure Lovie Smith was probably the main reason why, but Martz was the one who hired Lovie Smith and Martz led the initiative to dramatically improve the Rams defense that offseason.

[royr17]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

My reasoning:

1) For all the talk that Martz is a bad coach, he has a 53-32 record as a head coach, and a 3-4 career playoff record. Gregg Williams has a 17-31 career head coaching record. It would be hard pressed to find any prospective coach who is going to be available this offseason (and I still think Fisher stays in Tennessee) with the NFL head coaching record that Martz has.

2) Martz would keep the basis of the Chiefs' current successful offensive system in place and would probably enhance the passing game by upgrading the WR position, making the Chiefs passing game more explosive. Also Martz and Trent Green have a history together and a positive relationship, which is important considering Trent will probably be the Chiefs starting QB for another 2 seasons at least IMO.

3) Martz has a proven track record of developing QBs (see Trent Green, which goes back to his days in Washington, Kurt Warner and Marc Bulger) and would be able to develop a young QB to eventually replace Trent Green.

4) All the gushing over Gregg Williams, people are forgetting how horrible he was as a head coach in Buffalo. That 3rd year where he had the players in place on defense that he had wanted, the Bills completely fell apart, finishing 6-10. All he's proven in Washington is that he's a good defensive coordinator, but nothing that would suggest he would be a better head coach if he were given a second chance.

5) Looking at college ranks, really no one stands out to me. I don't think Carroll will leave USC this offseason and I don't think Stoops would make a good NFL head coach (especially considering he is overrated as a college coach, see how Pete Caroll and Nick Saban toyed with and humiliated him in the Orange Bowl and Sugar Bowl the past 2 years). Not to mention, also that Stoops has zero NFL coaching experience.

6) I think Martz could be a guy who helps turn around the Chiefs defense. After his first year as head coach of the Rams, he led the Rams focus that offseason towards dramatically improving their defense, and he hired Lovie Smith to be DC. The following season the Rams finished in the top 10 in total defense and allowed 200 less points that season than they did the season before (second most dramatic improvement in NFL history). I'm not arguing that Martz was the main reason behind that improvement and I'm sure Lovie Smith was probably the main reason why, but Martz was the one who hired Lovie Smith and Martz led the initiative to dramatically improve the Rams defense that offseason.

You are a dumbass and should be neg rep bombed.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Somebody got a big bag of Skunk #1 Big Bud for Christmas...

And they're not sharing.

[NJ Chief Fan]

bring in martz as a oc if carl brings in herm as a hc...this would balance out herm being conservative and martz being to agressive

[CoMoChief]

I would no longer be a Chiefs fan if Martz is our new HC. He's a great coordinator, terrible HC. His 50something win record does not show for his inconsistency and goofy play calling. I wouldnt mind him as our QB coach or OC if Al Saunders was to replace DV. But other than that I view Martz as a whiny little baby. I pretty much hate the entire Rams organization as a whole.

[CoMoChief]

If Houston is in position to draft Reggie Bush, I see Martz going to Houston to replace Capers.

[SLAG]

Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

I would no longer be a Chiefs fan if Martz is our new HC. He's a great coordinator, terrible HC. His 50something win record does not show for his inconsistency and goofy play calling. I wouldnt mind him as our QB coach or OC if Al Saunders was to replace DV. But other than that I view Martz as a whiny little baby. I pretty much hate the entire Rams organization as a whole.

I thought the chiefs had the rams by any other name thing going?

[Lzen]

Martz is an idiot. No way do I wanna see him coaching the Chiefs.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by chagrin

so that's the reason he should be here. And you're wrong about the injuries to Faulk. He had one injury and Martz used that against him as a way to show off his passing game.

Since then, the team has drafted defensive players and tried everything to get him the talent he needs and he cannot win with them.

1 Playoff game won doesn't make him a great coach.

I'm not buying it, and I son't want Gregggg Williams either, they both suck ass at the head coaching position

Faulk hasn't been able to play in more than 14 games in a season (including only 11 games in 2003) since the '99-'00 season. So I wouldn't say that is just one injury.

And Martz as a head coach has been to 7 playoff games, with 3 playoff wins and a Super Bowl appearance.

Is there another head coaching possibility that is realistically going to be available this offseason with that proven NFL track record as a head coach?

Not Gregg Williams
Not Bob Stoops
Not Pete Carroll
Not Al Saunders

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[SPchief]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

My reasoning:

1) For all the talk that Martz is a bad coach, he has a 53-32 record as a head coach, and a 3-4 career playoff record. Gregg Williams has a 17-31 career head coaching record. It would be hard pressed to find any prospective coach who is going to be available this offseason (and I still think Fisher stays in Tennessee) with the NFL head coaching record that Martz has.

2) Martz would keep the basis of the Chiefs' current successful offensive system in place and would probably enhance the passing game by upgrading the WR position, making the Chiefs passing game more explosive. Also Martz and Trent Green have a history together and a positive relationship, which is important considering Trent will probably be the Chiefs starting QB for another 2 seasons at least IMO.

3) Martz has a proven track record of developing QBs (see Trent Green, which goes back to his days in Washington, Kurt Warner and Marc Bulger) and would be able to develop a young QB to eventually replace Trent Green.

4) All the gushing over Gregg Williams, people are forgetting how horrible he was as a head coach in Buffalo. That 3rd year where he had the players in place on defense that he had wanted, the Bills completely fell apart, finishing 6-10. All he's proven in Washington is that he's a good defensive coordinator, but nothing that would suggest he would be a better head coach if he were given a second chance.

5) Looking at college ranks, really no one stands out to me. I don't think Carroll will leave USC this offseason and I don't think Stoops would make a good NFL head coach (especially considering he is overrated as a college coach, see how Pete Caroll and Nick Saban toyed with and humiliated him in the Orange Bowl and Sugar Bowl the past 2 years). Not to mention, also that Stoops has zero NFL coaching experience.

6) I think Martz could be a guy who helps turn around the Chiefs defense. After his first year as head coach of the Rams, he led the Rams focus that offseason towards dramatically improving their defense, and he hired Lovie Smith to be DC. The following season the Rams finished in the top 10 in total defense and allowed 200 less points that season than they did the season before (second most dramatic improvement in NFL history). I'm not arguing that Martz was the main reason behind that improvement and I'm sure Lovie Smith was probably the main reason why, but Martz was the one who hired Lovie Smith and Martz led the initiative to dramatically improve the Rams defense that offseason.

Your and idiot.


**** NO to Mike Martz
have you watched him coach any games??

[CoMoChief]

Theres not another team in the NFL that is on a faster decline than the St Louis Rams, thanks to Martz.

[Bwana]

No

[StcChief]

NFW.
Can't manage the game clock.

OLine collapse in decline since 2000.

OC maybe not HC anywhere.

[CoMoChief]

Martz knows about defense just as much as Vermeil does, which is barely above a 4th graders knowledge about defense.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

My reasoning:

1) For all the talk that Martz is a bad coach, he has a 53-32 record as a head coach, and a 3-4 career playoff record.

Martz has that record because of talent on the field, not because of his talent on the sideline..... this is like Carl Peterson a week ago telling us that "any team's realistic expectation at the beginning of the season is to have a chance at a playoff birth going into the last week of the season"...... um, no. A good regular season record isn't always good enough. The Rams had a lot more potential than 1 SB win (as hard as that is to say).