MERRIL- Coming undone (after reading this article, I hate Herm even more)

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

You know buddy, I really just dont care anymore.. I am not surprised at this article, our record and wouldnt be surprised if next year is more than the same as this year. Terrible clock managment, play calling, game planning and just overall poor decisions from the HC. I will root for the Chiefs, but hope of building a contender is a pipe dream for the next 4-6 years... Just ask a Jets fan about hope with Herm...

So he went to a couple of playoffs, Yeah! Joy Joy! There is a reason he was fired in NYJ, the act is tired, the records and history speaks for itself...

Today is the last time you will hear me ever say anything more about the joke of a coach here in KC. Good or Bad... So call me out if I say anything.

Someone earlier brought up something that was interesting.... TN_Chief? The only reason he is a head coach still is because of Carl Peterson.... I cant see anything promising that he brings to a team..


So there it is Htismaqe, my last little jab about Herm.....

Looking forward to other debates with you in the future.

I don't really care anymore either. As far as Jets' fans opinions on Herm, I could care less. It's the JETS. Their history as a football team is akin to the Chicago Cubs, only with MUCH MORE losing. It's a bad team, a bad franchise, and he happened to be one of their more successful coaches EVER.

He wasn't fired in New York. That's not accurate.

And TN_Chief was patronizing Herm. He said Carl was ONE reason Herm was still employed. The second he left up to us to decide, but he was obviously inferring that the only reason Herm has a job is because he's BLACK. Which is undeniably among the dumbest things ever posted here.

All of that being said, I'm done with this staff. Carl and Herm need to go immediately after the season. The only reason I'm not more vocal about it is because I know too damn well that Clark will sit on his hands and do nothing. It's the Chiefs' legacy.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I don't really care anymore either. As far as Jets' fans opinions on Herm, I could care less. It's the JETS. Their history as a football team is akin to the Chicago Cubs, only with MUCH MORE losing. It's a bad team, a bad franchise, and he happened to be one of their more successful coaches EVER.

He wasn't fired in New York. That's not accurate.

And TN_Chief was patronizing Herm. He said Carl was ONE reason Herm was still employed. The second he left up to us to decide, but he was obviously inferring that the only reason Herm has a job is because he's BLACK. Which is undeniably among the dumbest things ever posted here.

All of that being said, I'm done with this staff. Carl and Herm need to go immediately after the season. The only reason I'm not more vocal about it is because I know too damn well that Clark will sit on his hands and do nothing. It's the Chiefs' legacy.

The person of debate was going to be fired if Carl didnt so graciously give Bradway a 4th round pick for this individual... Everyone in the NFL knew this person was getting canned....

Black or whatever, I still sucks and doesnt matter. Jets, Cubs, Chiefs? Whats the difference?

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

All of that being said, I'm done with this staff. Carl and Herm need to go immediately after the season. The only reason I'm not more vocal about it is because I know too damn well that Clark will sit on his hands and do nothing. It's the Chiefs' legacy.

Hopefully Clark won't have to be hit over the head with a sledge hammer as many times as the Glass family was before they finally got the message.

[TN_Chief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

TN_Chief was patronizing Herm. He said Carl was ONE reason Herm was still employed. The second he left up to us to decide, but he was obviously inferring that the only reason Herm has a job is because he's BLACK. Which is undeniably among the dumbest things ever posted here.

Oh is it? You'd have to be a moron to not be cognizant of the NFL's hissy fit whenever a team hires a coach without the search process including an African-American candidate or two. What has that led to? Romeo Crennel has been a mess in Cleveland. Herm has a career losing record (over 6 seasons) as a head coach. Art Shell...don't even get me started. In my opinion, and I'm entitled to it provided I'm not offensive about expressing it, these guys are still around as HCs because they fit the league's desire to appear PC. I'm not suggesting that there aren't excellent African-American head coaches. Dennis Green, though a mess in Arizona, was great in Minnesota (and despite the trainwreck in the desert still has an impressive coaching record). Tony Dungy has been an outstanding coach for two teams. But IMO, some coaches have been guaranteed virtual immortality due to their skin color (because the league desperately wants to appear progressive).

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by TN_Chief

Oh is it? You'd have to be a moron to not be cognizant of the NFL's hissy fit whenever a team hires a coach without the search process including an African-American candidate or two. What has that led to? Romeo Crennel has been a mess in Cleveland. Herm has a career losing record (over 6 seasons) as a head coach. Art Shell...don't even get me started. In my opinion, and I'm entitled to it provided I'm not offensive about expressing it, these guys are still around as HCs because they fit the league's desire to appear PC. I'm not suggesting that there aren't excellent African-American head coaches. Dennis Green, though a mess in Arizona, was great in Minnesota (and despite the trainwreck in the desert still has an impressive coaching record). Tony Dungy has been an outstanding coach for two teams. But IMO, some coaches have been guaranteed virtual immortality due to their skin color (because the league desperately wants to appear progressive).

Are you suggesting that Crennel wasn't a qualified head coaching candidate? Or Art Shell? How does Steve Mariucci get coaching jobs, or Dom Capers, or Jim Fassel?

The NFL is a good old boys network and it applies equally to EVERYBODY, regardless of skin color. But yes, you are a racist.

[HonestChieffan]

Herm should consider bringing in a mindset guru, maybe do a team chant, have a song the guys can all learn in camp.

The problem is that they need a bonding moment.

[FringeNC]

“It’s a process. Once you feel it … it’s similar to what happened in New York for us. They kind of got it, they understood it.

The process by which Herm leads a team to 4-12?

It's not about offense or defense, it's about feelings. Okay, Herm. I love how Herm blames the players' feelings instead of poor coaching for the losses. The guy is perhaps the least Xs and Os skilled guy to ever be a head coach in the NFL.

[TN_Chief]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

The guy is perhaps the least Xs and Os skilled guy to ever be a head coach in the NFL.

There are two reasons why Herm Edwards is still employed as an NFL head coach. His relationship with Carl Peterson is one of them. I'll let you guess the other...it's not hard to figure out.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by TN_Chief

There are two reasons why Herm Edwards is still employed as an NFL head coach. His relationship with Carl Peterson is one of them. I'll let you guess the other...it's not hard to figure out.

he's a Mormon?

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

he's a Mormon?

At least if that were the case we could look forward to Carl telling him to STF down and STF up.

[Zouk]

Originally Posted by TN_Chief

There are two reasons why Herm Edwards is still employed as an NFL head coach. His relationship with Carl Peterson is one of them. I'll let you guess the other...it's not hard to figure out.

At least now I realize the true motivation for your illogical anti-Herm rants.

Thanks for the insight.

[TN_Chief]

Originally Posted by Zouk

At least now I realize the true motivation for your illogical anti-Herm rants.

Thanks for the insight.

The truly beautiful thing about your statement is that it actually tells me a lot about you, as opposed to the assumptions you're making about me based on what I wrote.

[stanleychief]

Originally Posted by TN_Chief

There are two reasons why Herm Edwards is still employed as an NFL head coach. His relationship with Carl Peterson is one of them. I'll let you guess the other...it's not hard to figure out.

Is it because he makes the best cheese fondue dip? If I were GM, I'd think that could weigh in pretty heavily in my decision making process.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

The process by which Herm leads a team to 4-12?

It's not about offense or defense, it's about feelings. Okay, Herm. I love how Herm blames the players' feelings instead of poor coaching for the losses. The guy is perhaps the least Xs and Os skilled guy to ever be a head coach in the NFL.

Your last sentence is definitely at least debatable. He just doesn't seem to have a grasp on things during the game. Even my wife, who knows nothing about football, occassionally says during the game "why does the Chiefs coach always look so confused?"

That being said, your first sentence is crap. The process by which Herm led that team to 4-12 was pretty simple:

Step 1: Starting QB injured
Step 2: 2nd-string QB injured
Step 3: 3rd-string QB injured
and so on.

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Your last sentence is definitely at least debatable. He just doesn't seem to have a grasp on things during the game. Even my wife, who knows nothing about football, occassionally says during the game "why does the Chiefs coach always look so confused?"

That being said, your first sentence is crap. The process by which Herm led that team to 4-12 was pretty simple:

Step 1: Starting QB injured
Step 2: 2nd-string QB injured
Step 3: 3rd-string QB injured
and so on.

You're right. It was a cheap shot on Herm. I don't really hate Herm until he opens his mouth and starts sputtering crap. He's done some decent stuff this year -- I think he is good at creating a decent atmosphere in the locker room. I think Herm could be successful if he was surrounded by a very good GM, and very good coordinators...but he doesn't have that here...He just doesn't know enough Xs and Os to do himself.