My draft day to improve the Chiefs

[BigChiefFan]

After compiling my notes from the past season, I'm willing to formulate a 2008 draft plan, prior to the combine and Bowl games, after all Carl will be going on vacation, soon, so somebody needs to look out for the team. LOL. Hopefully, it will be a permenant vacation for him.

1st round- Trade down to 16, Draft OT Sam Baker, pick up an additional 2nd rounder AND 3rd rounder. 5th overall pick is worth 1700 points, that equals the 16th overall pick, plus their picks in the 2nd and 3rd round. Great value...Sam Baker has 3 years experience as a LT for USC. He's all-Pac-10 and Walter Camp All-American. He's got skills and experience and we net some great picks, too. Baker has tremendous upside.

2nd round- DT, Frank Okam, from the University of Texas. Okam has been one of the leaders of the 10th best run defense in the country, this past year. Allowing only 61.2 yards rushing per game. In 38 career starts, and a total of 49 games played in, Okam has 157 tackles, 10 sacks, 27 tackles for loss, 1 forced fumble, and 5 fumble recoveries. Okam is 6' 5", 320 lbs. and could become the nose tackle that we desperately need. Texas also produces some of the best DTs in the league. I believe Okam will continue the trend.

2nd Round(after the trade down in 1st round) MLB, Tavares Gooden, from the University of Miami. Gooden was the 2007 player of the year. He's lightning fast for a MLBer and he has a nose for the ball. He led the team this past year with 96 tackles. Gooden can play every LBing position on the field.

3rd round, C, Mike Pollack, from ASU. All pac-10 in 2007. 2nd team All-Pac 10 in '06. Rated as the 2nd best Center in the upcoming draft. Great value early in the 3rd round.

3rd round, CB, Charles Gooden, Iowa. 2007 2nd All-Big 10 team. 65 tackles and 5 Ints, 9 passes defensed in '07. Gooden is 6'1" , 208 lbs. and he has 4.38 speed. Gooden would immediately upgrade the secondary with his ball-hawking skills.

4th Round-RG, Arkansas, Robert Felton is a 3 year STARTER for the razorbacks. Who has played both RG and RT. Felton has been credited with being one of reasons while Arkansas had such a dominating run game. 2007 All SEC 1st team. Felton would be the RG staple in my plans.

5th Round-RT, Kirk Barton, Ohio State, In 2007, Barton was 1st team, All-Big 10 and AFCA coaches All-America team. He's also credited at being the key blocker for the Buckeyes. Future RT as a Chief.

5th Round-LG, Martin O'Donnell, Illinois. O'Donnell was 1st team All-America in 2007. 4 year starter at LG. O'Donnell lead the Illini, to the 6th best rushing attack in the nation and averaged less than one sack per game for the entire offensive line. Waters future replacement and quality depth.

6th Round-SS, D.J. Wolfe, University of Oklahoma. Wolfe is a SS that plays like a linebacker. wolfe loves to hit and it shows. 2nd team All-Big 12 in 2007. Wolfe has been a key component of OU's defense.
I believe Wolfe could push Pollard for a starting position.

7th Round- FS, Joe Fields, Syracuse. 2nd team All-Big 10 in 2007. Led team with 97 tackles. Had 4 Ints.



I believe thse moves alone would improve the team by leaps and bounds. Thoughts?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

who is that?

Gosder Cherilus.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Using your logic, Trezelle Jenkins was the best LT to ever play the game. Bigger doesn't necessarily mean better, especially when you consider Baker's size.

Here's Trezelle for you...

Trezelle Jenkins
Trezelle Samuel Jenkins
Position: OT/T
Height: 6' 7'' Weight: 323
Born: 3/13/1973, in Chicago, IL, USA
High School: Morgan Park (Chicago, IL)
College: University of Michigan

That's not using my logic whatsoever. This is examining Sam Baker in a vacuum. He's a tiny piece of shit that is not worth a first-round draft pick, ESPECIALLY FOR AN OL HUNGRY TEAM.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I watch Baker play all the time.....he isn't going to be a great LT, he may need to switch positions. Physically he is maxed out, he's not a terrible pass blocker but he's not a good run blocker..he can be bull rushed...I could see him being physically dominated at the NFL level at times.

Stop using logical deduction to evaluate a player. Where's the Mecca eye-test?

We all know that's the standard for evaluating players.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by GOATSE

That's not using my logic whatsoever. This is examining Sam Baker in a vacuum. He's a tiny piece of shit that is not worth a first-round draft pick, ESPECIALLY FOR AN OL HUNGRY TEAM.

Okay, 6'5", 312 lbs. is tiny. Just say you don't like him and move on. Throwing stupid ass shit around like he doesn't look like a LT is absurd, especially when you are comparing him to two of the biggest players in the upcoming draft. He'll take on DEs and LBers, not other LTs.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Okay, 6'5", 312 lbs. is tiny.

There is no way Sam Baker is 6-foot-5. Mark my words. He will not be measured at 6-5 at the combine.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Throwing stupid ass shit around

Thats standard Modus operandi for GoTurd. He tries to pass this garbage off as legitimate journalism to inflame the masses. Havent you learned by now??

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Romo_2007

Thats standard Modus operandi for GoTurd. He tries to pass this garbage off as legitimate journalism to inflame the masses. Havent you learned by now??

WTF? It's a post on a message board. I'm not trying to pass it off as anything.

[Mecca]

The reason I don't like this draft...is 16 is to far to drop down for 1. This teams first pick needs to be a pro bowl level player, a core player. Regardless of what position he plays, this team shouldn't be taking Oline be damned they should be taking the best player.

[The Bad Guy]

If we trade out of the 4-5 pick for that package, and draft Sam Baker, I will throw my ****ing new 61 inch TV out the window. That draft is horrible.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The reason I don't like this draft...is 16 is to far to drop down for 1. This teams first pick needs to be a pro bowl level player, a core player. Regardless of what position he plays, this team shouldn't be taking Oline be damned they should be taking the best player.

It's dropping down 11 spots and in the process we net additional 2nd and 3rd rounders. Please list the KNOWN Pro Bowlers in the upcoming draft? They're ALL rookies, some translate better than others, but there isn't a guarantee for any team picking. Baker is also slated to go around 16. If we wanted, we could consider Oher at around 20-22 range. That said, I've done the research. The players I picked are all good value for when and where they are picked. The draft is heavy for O-lineman value, but that doesn't mean we ignore the position all together. Most of the other positions are reaches were they are slated.

I would have picked Long at the number 5 overall pick, but I don't honestly believe he will be there. I don't believe Chris Long, McFadden, or Dorsey will be there, either. That's spells out trade down to me.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

If we trade out of the 4-5 pick for that package, and draft Sam Baker, I will throw my ****ing new 61 inch TV out the window. That draft is horrible.

Don't sugarcoat it, tell us how you really feel. Let's see your draft , Mr. Expert.

[Mecca]

If the Chiefs pick 4th or 5th and want to trade down they should only drop 3 or 4 spots at most to still ensure a shot at a top of the line guy.

I'd much rather only get 1 extra first day pick and still get a Sedrick Ellis.

[bowener]

Since I am new here I do not know, but how many times on average does GOATSE say, "mark my words," in any given thread?

[bowener]

Mecca, I think you are a USC fan, is Baker good?

[Groves]

I'd like to try and catch said appliance, let me know.