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Old 01-14-2010, 01:33 AM  
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Whitlock LOLs at the Patsification of the Chiefs

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/col...y/1682402.html

Wake me when the Chiefs sign Tom Brady, the one with two healthy knees and fearless pocket demeanor.

Until then, I’ll take a wait-and-see approach with Scott Pioli’s New England Relocation Plan.

Right now, this smells like a Jackson Five reunion tour without Michael (Brady) or Janet (Bill Belichick).

Romeo “Tito” Crennel, the defensive coordinator, joins Pioli, Charlie Weis, Matt Cassel, Mike Vrabel and ex-Pats to be named later in what appears to be a lame attempt at recreating the New England Dynasty.

Let me apologize for being unimpressed with this lineup.

You’re tired of reading it, and I’m tired of writing it. Unfortunately, I’m paid to tell you what I really think. Romeo Crennel sounds great on paper. He won three Super Bowls while holding the title of “defensive coordinator” for Belichick’s Patriots.

Tito sold a bunch of records plucking a guitar and singing backup for Michael Jackson. Without The Gloved One, we never heard of Tito again until Michael passed.

Romeo flamed out in Cleveland as a head coach. Of all the Belichick assistants during the Super Bowl years, Crennel was the one with the least amount of responsibility on his plate. Belichick designed the defenses.

When Crennel got the Cleveland job, I asked a longtime Patriots defender what he thought of the hire, and the player told me flat out that he never envisioned Romeo as a head coach.

It’s just one player, one opinion. And not being head-coach material doesn’t disqualify someone from being a top-flight coordinator.

In fact, I touched base with the player again on Wednesday, and he assured me that Crennel installed the defensive game plan throughout the week without interference from Belichick and that Crennel called the game.

The player also assured me that Belichick had his fingerprints on everything that transpired with the team — special teams, offense, defense and front-office decisions.

I’m just not sold on Crennel. As a coordinator, Crennel has far more to prove than Charlie Weis. No one I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to create innovative game plans. (Everyone I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to control his ego.)

Crennel worked for Belichick, who specializes in defense. Bill Parcells never won a Super Bowl without Belichick working as his defensive coordinator.

Hey, maybe one day we will be saying the same thing about Belichick and Crennel.

Today, all I’m sure of is that Crennel’s hiring increases the likelihood that Todd Haley is in a make-or-break season in 2010.

If things go poorly next season, don’t look for Pioli, Weis and Crennel to take the blame. They have nine Super Bowl rings among them. In their mind, they know exactly what it takes to win at the highest level in the NFL.

Haley either has no political savvy, no interest in playing the kind of politics that enhances a coach’s longevity or zero leverage when putting together a coaching staff.

Given the previous working relationship of Pioli, Weis and Crennel — and Weis’ oversized ego — it would be a seamless transition for Pioli to install Weis as head coach midway through the 2010 season or at the start of 2011.

My gut says Haley’s ego and gambling nature make him unaware of the ramifications of his decisions. Firing Chan Gailey was a colossal error. With the offensive personnel provided to him by Pioli, Haley should’ve held on to Gailey for a season. There was no reason for the head coach to attach his reputation and credibility to a receiver-less offense.

Good coaches are paranoid. They perceive every move by ownership/management as a potential threat to their power. Paranoia is what drives a good coach to be great. Paranoia is what makes a coach sleep at his office and punt on fourth down.

Look at Belichick. He’s been spoiled by success. That’s why he went for it on fourth and 2 against the Colts. He’s losing his paranoia.

Haley’s background is extremely unusual for an NFL head coach. Golfers focus on a single obstacle, the course. A football coach worries about a million things, including what his assistants may or may not be plotting.
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Old 01-14-2010, 01:55 AM   #16
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Whats the word on the secondary coach? Crennel will retire in 3 years it'd be nice to groom a replacement like Todd Bowles though thats not very realistic.
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:00 AM   #17
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Fatlock is stupid. Romey has 5 rings not 3. He got 2 with the Giants under Parcells. Bill also flopped in Browns country and I don't see Bill doing so well these days without Scott and the best Coords he's ever had. The head coach gets alot of credit just like the QB but without a good coaching staff he will fail.

There are 11 rings at One Arrowhead Drive now. That's credibility and a winning attitude. They will get the players to work harder and teach them how to play as a team. Nobody knows how to do that better than the OC and DC we have now. Call it whatever you want (Patsification) but not calling it progress is plain indiotic.
Great post. But ya might be a little short on the ring count. I believe that: Crennel has been in 6 SBs with 5 wins. Weis has 4 rings. Pioli has three rings. I may be wrong on the count, but I can't believe that some folks are still bitching about these hires. Unreal.
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:01 AM   #18
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He's right, though.

The Chiefs didn't do their due diligence.

Crennel and Weis are riding in on white horses like Gunther.
Are the horses wearing cut-off shirts?
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:02 AM   #19
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:03 AM   #20
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I would like to see them hire some coaches who didn't use to be with the Patriots or are a bit younger you know.

It's not a problem that they won bowls, but that isn't the criteria we should look for either, we had a ton of SB winning guys when Vermiel was here, that never worked.

I think my biggest issue is it just doesn't look like they are going out of their way to get the best guy other than just hiring the guys he knows from NE. In a vacuum 1 on 1 they're fine hires but when you add them all up it's like yo man good ole boy network eh?
You are correct but that is the way in football alot of times. Guys maintain their contacts and when they get something they bring in their guys.
I was a project manager and some of the techs that worked for me had their warts but I knew their warts. if a head hunter sent me a "better" tech in the long run it might be good but in the short term I have to learn his good qualities and his worts so I would prob get the job done faster with the lesser tech that I know well right now. I think haley feels that he needs to fix this now. In an ideal world if this works out haley will be hc longer than either of these guys will be here as co ordinators. The next hires after he rights the ship can be the kind of young upstart hires that people want.
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The other thing is all of these guys coach from the sideline...I wonder how that will work because the HC is by far the least experienced...and he showed it this past year.
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I would like to see them hire some coaches who didn't use to be with the Patriots or are a bit younger you know.

It's not a problem that they won bowls, but that isn't the criteria we should look for either, we had a ton of SB winning guys when Vermiel was here, that never worked.

I think my biggest issue is it just doesn't look like they are going out of their way to get the best guy other than just hiring the guys he knows from NE. In a vacuum 1 on 1 they're fine hires but when you add them all up it's like yo man good ole boy network eh?
Your logic baffles me. A good ole boy network is a GOOD thing when the boys have SB bling. C'mon Mecca. Drink the kool-aid. It's purple (not grape), your favorite.
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Your logic baffles me. A good ole boy network is a GOOD thing when the boys have SB bling. C'mon Mecca. Drink the kool-aid. It's purple (not grape), your favorite.
No it's really not, everyone was thrilled to be rid of Peterson's good ole boy network and we traded that one for another one.

When Vermiel came in here it was no different than what we have now, other than his personality.

The Weis hire is fine, he did a nice job with marginal talent in his time with NE with a defensive HC. Crennel I consider that one much much more risky...
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The other thing is all of these guys coach from the sideline...I wonder how that will work because the HC is by far the least experienced...and he showed it this past year.
Which is good.
Inexperienced hc being helped by experienced co ordinators. then like iI said if he does well and gets more experience then go hoodie and hire the young genius guys.
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Which is good.
Inexperienced hc being helped by experienced co ordinators. then like iI said if he does well and gets more experience then go hoodie and hire the young genius guys.
I question how open Haley is to that...this is a guy who went off on his assistants this past year and demoted a few of them...
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No it's really not, everyone was thrilled to be rid of Peterson's good ole boy network and we traded that one for another one.

When Vermiel came in here it was no different than what we have now, other than his personality.

The Weis hire is fine, he did a nice job with marginal talent in his time with NE with a defensive HC. Crennel I consider that one much much more risky...
Dude, I'm going to weave your fuzzy logic into TWO giant Chiefs' sweaters and present them to Weis & Crennel in your honor. To compare Peterson's credentials to Pioli's is illogical. [ex. All of Pioli's boys have SB experience.]

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Dude, I'm going to weave your fuzzy logic into TWO giant Chiefs' sweaters and present them to Weis & Crennel in your honor. To compare Peterson's credentials to Pioli's is illogical.

How do you figure?

To this point Pioli hasn't done anything different than the way Peterson did things. Hire people you know, trade for the safe QB, these are all things people would go nuts on Carl for doing.

The only difference was in his first draft Peterson had the 3rd pick and got Derrick Thomas, Pioli got Tyson Jackson.

Also plenty of NE guys have nice credentials it hasn't stopped nearly all of them from shitting their pants once they left Boston.
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I question how open Haley is to that...this is a guy who went off on his assistants this past year and demoted a few of them...
I am holding out hope that he will learn from his ways and become a better coach. His demeanor changed over the course of the season which tells me he is not afraid of admitting he was wrong which coaches in general rarely do.
Having that quality means he can get better. It's not a gurantee he will but he can. Ever think herm was going to get better? Nope because herm was like most coaches stubborn enough to do the same things over and over.
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How do you figure?

To this point Pioli hasn't done anything different than the way Peterson did things. Hire people you know, trade for the safe QB, these are all things people would go nuts on Carl for doing.

The only difference was in his first draft Peterson had the 3rd pick and got Derrick Thomas, Pioli got Tyson Jackson.

Also plenty of NE guys have nice credentials it hasn't stopped nearly all of them from shitting their pants once they left Boston.
Alright, I just poured some 18 yr old scotch in your kool aid. Now drink up & get on the bus. Let's party like it's just a few years after 1999 in Boston, aight? Calm yourself and let the collective history of this new regime just flow over you. You'll feel so much better.
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