Jimmy Clausen Scouting Report - Page 2

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-09-2010, 06:32 PM

Height: 6-2⅝ | Weight: 222 | 40-Time: 4.75

Official Bio

Strengths:
Good height and bulk --- Arm strength is more than adequate and can make all of the necessary throws --- Great throwing mechanics with a quick delivery --- Super accurate passer with terrific touch, timing and anticipation --- Very smart with an excellent football IQ --- Knows how to operate under center, recognize blitzes, read coverages and go through progressions --- Takes care of the ball --- Able to buy time in the pocket with his feet --- Can throw on the run --- Tough and will play through pain and injuries --- Is confident with a fiery field presence and ice water in his veins --- Hard worker --- Media savvy and has proven that he can handle the spotlight --- Experienced --- Superb bloodlines.

Weaknesses:
Borderline cocky and entitled with a personality that rubs some people the wrong way --- Not a great athlete --- Can be overly cautious and too quick to check down, throw the ball away or take a sack --- Has to windup to really zip the ball --- Floats the deep ball at times --- Might not have a ton of upside --- Is still maturing --- Durability is a concern.

Notes:
Was a three-year starter for the Fighting Irish --- Brothers Casey and Rick both played quarterback at Tennessee --- Started getting national media attention in middle school and was labeled the "LeBron James of College Football" --- Was a celebrated recruit who won just about every prep award and honor imaginable --- Began working with highly-regarded quarterback guru Steve Clarkson in the 8th grade then spent three seasons under the tutelage of offensive mastermind Charlie Weis in college --- Underwent surgery to repair a minor injury to the elbow on his throwing arm in 2007 --- Played through a painful toe injury in 2009 that eventually required surgery to repair a couple of torn ligaments following the season --- Voted a captain by his teammates in 2009 --- One of the most prolific passers in Notre Dame history despite only playing three seasons --- Made major strides in the leadership department as a junior, showing a much better on-field demeanor and taking his team on a number of impressive game-winning fourth quarter drives --- Extensive experience running a pro style system, a factor which can't be underestimated in this day and age of the spread offense --- Was essentially groomed to be an NFL quarterback from a very young age and has somehow managed to live up to sky-high expectations in the face of intense scrutiny --- The worry is that some of the Jay Cutler-esque qualities of his personality could begin to take their toll in the locker room if he lands in a bad situation or with a dysfunctional franchise --- A polished signal caller with an outstanding pedigree and all of the tools to be a top-notch starter at the next level.

**BossChief** · 03-09-2010, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I don't think so. I think Sanchez goes to St. Louis in a heartbeat if he's coming out this year.

Well, the debatable part I was talking about is injuries, dealing with adversity of having to do more because of the loss of so many defenders, nitpickers etc.

He would likely be the top prospect, but you never know 100% till it happens.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 03-09-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Well, the debatable part I was talking about is injuries, dealing with adversity of having to do more because of the loss of so many defenders, nitpickers etc.

He would likely be the top prospect, but you never know 100% till it happens.

It's totally incomparable, but I was huge on Sanchez early last year. The upside alone puts him head and shoulders above IMO. Bradford was smart not coming out last year if he actually gets picked first.

**DeezNutz** · 03-09-2010, 08:40 PM

If the Weis hire means we finally get to draft and develop a legit franchise QB, it will be the single greatest coaching acquisition in the last 27 years, hands down.

**BossChief** · 03-09-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If the Weis hire means we finally get to draft and develop a legit franchise QB, it will be the single greatest coaching acquisition in the last 27 years, hands down.

agree 100%

To me, it would be the most exciting draft pick of all time!

I would make a serious investment in season tickets because I would have a real feel that I could make serious long term profit on them.

Saccopoo · 03-09-2010, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

He's a Shanahan pick. No doubt about it.

He's got no mobility and has to wind up to throw a ball more than 20 yards. Not even remotely close to being what Shanahan wants from a quarterback.

However, Pestilence says he's already been fitted for his bust in Canton, so I'll go with his assessment. I'm sure he's looking at Clausen's pro potential objectively. Sure, Clausen really only had one good season and tossed 17 picks his sophomore year alone, is on the small side, with short arms and small hands and comes off as an entitled douche that looks to blame others before himself. But we want guys like that on our team.

Saccopoo · 03-09-2010, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I've been saying that since I first took the time to watch some video on him. He's going to Washington.

I'm ****ing crossing my fingers that this happens so we don't consider him with our pick. However, like I said, he's not a Shanahan type quarterback by any measure.

I do hope he's there with the Chiefs pick and they are smart enough to do a deal with the Browns who obviously know a good quarterback when they see one and move up for this Hall of Fame level player. Because, if any Browns executive is reading this right now, I'm telling you - Seattle wants this guy with all of their being. They will draft Clausen. Bank on it. You better trade with the Chiefs to make sure you get this once in a generation level talent for your QBOTF.

Saccopoo · 03-09-2010, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Well, the debatable part I was talking about is injuries, dealing with adversity of having to do more because of the loss of so many defenders, nitpickers etc.

He would likely be the top prospect, but you never know 100% till it happens.

Jesus dude, don't give in to these guys. Stand your ground. Clausen is the ****ing bomb! Sanchez couldn't hold his jock strap and you know it. It's why he's the top qb in this draft and why he'd be the top pick over Sanchez, who was a product of the system versus being an unmitigated stud that had no one around him and that's why his standout junior season resulted in a 6-6 record (that closed out with four straight losses). No defense and no running game. (Although it's hard to have a running game when you are throwing the ball 40 plays a game.)

And don't worry about the mobility issue with Clausen. Over the course of his college career he carried the ball 175 times for a grand total of -355 yards. (Yep, that's a negative 355 yards.) In his standout junior season he managed to gain positive yardage only twice, with each of those resulting in ONE yard. 2 yards gained to 97 yards lost on his 57 carries in 2009. But you can put that on a horrible offensive line (that will see two players get drafted in Sam Young and Eric Olsen - but horrible nonetheless), not on Jimmy Clausen.

**** no Sanchez wouldn't have beat out Clausen as the top pick in this draft. Stand your ground like a man!

**BossChief** · 03-09-2010, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Jesus dude, don't give in to these guys. Stand your ground. Clausen is the ****ing bomb! Sanchez couldn't hold his jock strap and you know it. It's why he's the top qb in this draft and why he'd be the top pick over Sanchez, who was a product of the system versus being an unmitigated stud that had no one around him and that's why his standout junior season resulted in a 6-6 record (that closed out with four straight losses). No defense and no running game. (Although it's hard to have a running game when you are throwing the ball 40 plays a game.)

And don't worry about the mobility issue with Clausen. Over the course of his college career he carried the ball 175 times for a grand total of -355 yards. (Yep, that's a negative 355 yards.) In his standout junior season he managed to gain positive yardage only twice, with each of those resulting in ONE yard. 2 yards gained to 97 yards lost on his 57 carries in 2009. But you can put that on a horrible offensive line (that will see two players get drafted in Sam Young and Eric Olsen - but horrible nonetheless), not on Jimmy Clausen.

**** no Sanchez wouldn't have beat out Clausen as the top pick in this draft. Stand your ground like a man!

are you drunk?

**Kyle DeLexus** · 03-09-2010, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Jesus dude, don't give in to these guys. Stand your ground. Clausen is the ****ing bomb! Sanchez couldn't hold his jock strap and you know it. It's why he's the top qb in this draft and why he'd be the top pick over Sanchez, who was a product of the system versus being an unmitigated stud that had no one around him and that's why his standout junior season resulted in a 6-6 record (that closed out with four straight losses). No defense and no running game. (Although it's hard to have a running game when you are throwing the ball 40 plays a game.)

And don't worry about the mobility issue with Clausen. Over the course of his college career he carried the ball 175 times for a grand total of -355 yards. (Yep, that's a negative 355 yards.) In his standout junior season he managed to gain positive yardage only twice, with each of those resulting in ONE yard. 2 yards gained to 97 yards lost on his 57 carries in 2009. But you can put that on a horrible offensive line (that will see two players get drafted in Sam Young and Eric Olsen - but horrible nonetheless), not on Jimmy Clausen.

**** no Sanchez wouldn't have beat out Clausen as the top pick in this draft. Stand your ground like a man!

Holy shit your right we should draft ****ing Tim Tebow, he's got mobility.

ChiefsCountry · 03-10-2010, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

are you drunk?

No he is a ****ing reerun.

KCrockaholic · 03-10-2010, 12:06 AM

Cutler has been his most common comparison. I have to agree with that. If Cutler wasn't a dumbass he would be looking like Aaron Rodgers right now. Instead, he looks like Jeff George.

I don't see Clausen as a douchebag to the extent of Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, or Cutler. But, I think his immaturity will hinder his performance during the first couple years of his career. I've said many times, that I don't care that he played in a pro-style offense. He is not an NFL ready QB. It will take him until 2012 or 13 to fully mature and become solid. He is going to struggle during the early part of his career.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-10-2010, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Cutler has been his most common comparison. I have to agree with that. If Cutler wasn't a dumbass he would be looking like Aaron Rodgers right now. Instead, he looks like Jeff George.

I don't see Clausen as a douchebag to the extent of Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, or Cutler. But, I think his immaturity will hinder his performance during the first couple years of his career. I've said many times, that I don't care that he played in a pro-style offense. He is not an NFL ready QB. It will take him until 2012 or 13 to fully mature and become solid. He is going to struggle during the early part of his career.

So, basically he will be every non-Dan Marino QB, ever.

KCrockaholic · 03-10-2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

So, basically he will be every non-Dan Marino QB, ever.

Well we see guys like Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez, or Big Ben step in and be a decent QB at an early stage of their career, I don't think Clausen is going to be close to that. That's not taking away what he can be in his prime, but I can just picture all the Clausen lovers worried to death, that he is a bust after having a terrible rookie season if he starts. While the anti-Clausen people are saying "I told you so."

People are going to judge Clausen to quickly, and I fully expect Sam Bradford to have a better 1st season than Clausen.

I see Clausen as a developmental guy, and the reason he will go as the #2 QB in the draft is because he has the tools to work with, moreso than the other QB's in this draft that are also developmental guys.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-10-2010, 01:09 AM

The spread alone will make it impossible for Bradford to do anything next year.

**BossChief** · 03-10-2010, 01:12 AM

in NDs 6 losses this year, the offense put up

34
27
21
22
30
38

I would love to see how he would be perceived if his defense was a decent unit...

03-10-2010, 12:06 AM	#26
KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $3362900	Cutler has been his most common comparison. I have to agree with that. If Cutler wasn't a dumbass he would be looking like Aaron Rodgers right now. Instead, he looks like Jeff George. I don't see Clausen as a douchebag to the extent of Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, or Cutler. But, I think his immaturity will hinder his performance during the first couple years of his career. I've said many times, that I don't care that he played in a pro-style offense. He is not an NFL ready QB. It will take him until 2012 or 13 to fully mature and become solid. He is going to struggle during the early part of his career.
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03-10-2010, 01:09 AM	#29
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7149572	The spread alone will make it impossible for Bradford to do anything next year. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1705912	in NDs 6 losses this year, the offense put up 34 27 21 22 30 38 I would love to see how he would be perceived if his defense was a decent unit... __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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