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Old 07-05-2010, 10:31 AM   #1
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Meh, if they don't want to get hurt, don't run into the ****ing mailbox.
This, you cant be held liable for someone destroying federal property....
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Old 07-05-2010, 11:12 AM   #2
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Meh, if they don't want to get hurt, don't run into the ****ing mailbox.
Yeah, common sense would tell you that, but in our litigious society you can't take the chance.
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Old 07-05-2010, 12:18 PM   #3
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The problem with that is if your super duper reinforced immovable mailbox caused an injury in any way, you could be held liable. I was going to do something similar when my mother in law was getting her mailbox ran down at the rate of once per year but was advised not to. So instead I bought a small boulder to set next to it, one with a nice sharp point on the top. I figured it was small enough that it wouldn't hurt anyone, but it would at least take out a tire if someone decided to run it down. It's been six years since I did it and that mailbox is still standing. Although it didn't stop someone from crashing into her house a couple years later.
No. You aren't going to be liable if you have a super duper reinforced immovable mailbox. Unless they set it in concrete onto the street I don't see how that could be the case. You can reinforce your mailbox however the hell you want to. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd like to see some case law that found someone was somewhat at fault for somebody's injury because someone went off the road and hit a highly reinforced mailbox.
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Old 07-05-2010, 02:10 PM   #4
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No. You aren't going to be liable if you have a super duper reinforced immovable mailbox. Unless they set it in concrete onto the street I don't see how that could be the case. You can reinforce your mailbox however the hell you want to. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd like to see some case law that found someone was somewhat at fault for somebody's injury because someone went off the road and hit a highly reinforced mailbox.
The way I understand it is that you can be liable if you do it to stop people from smashing it with a bat or something. The logic is that you reasonably expected someone to drive by and smash your mailbox, you are liable if they sustain serious physical harm from hitting it after it's been filled with concrete. Even though they were committing a crime, you are still going to pay a pretty stiff price.

It's like someone who has their lunch stolen from the office fridge a few times and them makes a rat poison sandwich. If someone steals your lunch and dies from eating rat poison, you're going to jail.
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Old 07-05-2010, 02:59 PM   #5
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No. You aren't going to be liable if you have a super duper reinforced immovable mailbox. Unless they set it in concrete onto the street I don't see how that could be the case. You can reinforce your mailbox however the hell you want to. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd like to see some case law that found someone was somewhat at fault for somebody's injury because someone went off the road and hit a highly reinforced mailbox.
I don't care if there's a legal precedent or not, I wouldn't take the chance. There was an issue here in Omaha a few years back where a young driver lost control of their Jeep, flipped it over a curb, smashed into a illegally (city ordinance) constructed brick mailbox and was killed. Of course, there was a big hubbub regarding it and I know a lawsuit was filed, the argument being that even though the driver was driving recklessly, they wouldn't have been killed by a standard one. With that said, I don't recall ever hearing the outcome of it, my guess is it was probably settled out of court.

But regardless of the outcome, why would you risk the hassle and expense of a lawsuit over a fugging mailbox? You need to choose your battles in life wisely, and that one is not worth fighting.
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Old 07-05-2010, 05:27 PM   #6
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No. You aren't going to be liable if you have a super duper reinforced immovable mailbox. Unless they set it in concrete onto the street I don't see how that could be the case. You can reinforce your mailbox however the hell you want to. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd like to see some case law that found someone was somewhat at fault for somebody's injury because someone went off the road and hit a highly reinforced mailbox.
It could also be that people often post a their mailbox by the street. Often the property line stops well before the street. Not sure if this is a factor or not.
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Old 07-05-2010, 03:09 PM   #7
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The problem with that is if your super duper reinforced immovable mailbox caused an injury in any way, you could be held liable. I was going to do something similar when my mother in law was getting her mailbox ran down at the rate of once per year but was advised not to. So instead I bought a small boulder to set next to it, one with a nice sharp point on the top. I figured it was small enough that it wouldn't hurt anyone, but it would at least take out a tire if someone decided to run it down. It's been six years since I did it and that mailbox is still standing. Although it didn't stop someone from crashing into her house a couple years later.
Yeah I read a story somewhere about kids smashing mailboxes with bats while they drove around.. Got a house multiple times, so the owner filed it up with cement.. Kid broke their arm, they sued the guy and won..

Somehow those kids did not get any felony charges for destroying government property..
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Old 07-05-2010, 05:27 PM   #8
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Yeah I read a story somewhere about kids smashing mailboxes with bats while they drove around.. Got a house multiple times, so the owner filed it up with cement.. Kid broke their arm, they sued the guy and won..
This is ****ing BS! Further proof that our justice system is ****ed.
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:57 AM   #9
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The problem with that is if your super duper reinforced immovable mailbox caused an injury in any way, you could be held liable. I was going to do something similar when my mother in law was getting her mailbox ran down at the rate of once per year but was advised not to. So instead I bought a small boulder to set next to it, one with a nice sharp point on the top.
If this were true, and it's not, the boulder would cause the same exposure.
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Old 07-06-2010, 10:16 AM   #10
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If this were true, and it's not...
I don't think some of you understand how our legal system works. There is NOTHING that can stop someone from suing you, and at that point you're leaving everything you have in the hands of a jury. And even if you win, you're still out the time and money you've spent defending yourself.

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the boulder would cause the same exposure.
Sure, if it were actually large enough to do any significant damage. Calling it a boulder was a poor choice of words on my part, it sits less than a foot tall and would cause tire damage at the very most.
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:14 PM   #11
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If this were true, and it's not, the boulder would cause the same exposure.
The rock can be seen, and a reasonable person (the standard used in courts) understands what happens if they run over a rock. A booby trapped mailbox is like burying land mines in your yard to stop somebody from farming it.

If you want to fill your mailbox with cement, I'm all for it. Just don't act shocked when you find yourself in court.
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OP police were able to track the person down in a nearby apartment complex from the damage and paint chips and other parts in my yard.

This person was driving drunk between 8AM and Noon on a weekday, because it happened while I was gone at work and I noticed it when I got home from lunch.

I did learn one thing from it though, fire hydrants do not spray water everywhere when they are ran over. They have a safety valve......
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