MIKE PORTNOY Quits DREAM THEATER

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Actually, I think Petrucci is his equal. And Myung, as well. I stand by what I said. It will definitely not be the same. But does that automatically make them a cover band? **** no. That is a band with every musician a top performer at his craft.

I mean, Petrucci played the G3 tour and is commonly referred to by many as one of the top guitarists.

Rudess is a Juliart(sp?) grad.

Obviously they're all masters. I didn't intend to say otherwise. Portnoy seems the best to me. Petrucci might be the "worst" of the band to me, LaBrie excepting. Petrucci is completely replaceable as a player as he's all technique.

[midgetbolt]

Originally Posted by Lzen

WTF? No way. I mean, I love Portnoy and he's been a huge part of their sound for so long. But this in no way will diminish the sound of the band because every single one of them is just as dedicated to perfection.

The really noticeable differences, IMO, will be with things like lyrics, dvd production, etc. Those were the kind of things that a guy with OCD like Portnoy were made for. Of course, I say all this before even knowing who will replace him. That task sounds next to impossible but I have faith in those guys.

Still, I am very sad to see him go. WTF is he gonna do now? Go full time With Avenged Sevenfold?

Just told my son (another drummer) and he was pumped, saying "Does this mean he's gonna be playing with Avenged Sevenfold full time?"

As far as the sound of the band not changing, I respectfully disagree. Portnoy's drumming allows Rudess and Patrucci to play in the crazy, mega chops style that they do.

I don't know who in the hell out there can replace Portnoy, I don't think that person exists, unless they're going to try and get someone like Dave Weckl or Steve Smith (even at that, I can't see either one of those guys playing a monster kit in that kind of rocking style).

If DT keeps going, and replaces Portnoy with a rock drummer, his skill level is undoubtedly going to be lower, and that either limits the things the rest of the guys can do creatively, or at the very least, makes it sound shittier. The only guy I can think of that could come close would be Mike Terrana. Even at that, all the different drums, cymbals, stax, octobans, etc... that Portnoy plays, I just don't see anyone else stepping in there.

[Over-Head]

Originally Posted by midgetbolt

I don't know who in the hell out there can replace Portnoy, I just don't see anyone else stepping in there.

Virgil Denoti (sp) maybe

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Over-Head

Virgil Denoti (sp) maybe

He did audition. So that was a good suggestion.

Originally Posted by midgetbolt

Oh, and the one guy I think could (and possibly might) replace Portnoy:

Mike Mangini

Good call.

[Lzen]

WTH?

Well, that sucks. Should have know a great thing wouldn't last forever. Damn!

[Reaper16]

If Mike joins Avenged Sevenfold full-time then I will hate him forever. That band is so, so terrible.

[Buck]

Eh hem...

[DMAC]

At least this means no more rapping.

DAY AFTER DAY...AND NIGHT AFTER NIGHT...

[JD10367]

I have a hard and fast rule about bands: if the founders/songwriters leave, it's not the same band.

There is no Iron Maiden without Steve Harris and Dave Murray.

There is no KISS without Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons.

There is no Metallica without Hetfield, Hammett, and Ulrich.

There is no Rush without... well, all three of 'em, LOL.

Et cetera.

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by JD10367

I have a hard and fast rule about bands: if the founders/songwriters leave, it's not the same band.

There is no Iron Maiden without Steve Harris and Dave Murray.

There is no KISS without Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons.

There is no Metallica without Hetfield, Hammett, and Ulrich.

There is no Rush without... well, all three of 'em, LOL.

Et cetera.

Alot of folks would have said there is no Metallica without Cliff Burton, if we're talking founders/songwriters.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Third Eye

Alot of folks would have said there is no Metallica without Cliff Burton, if we're talking founders/songwriters.

And I always liked the Foo Fighters much better than Nirvana.

And as good as Creed was for a time, Scott Stapp leaving was actually a good thing. His solo album wasn't half bad and Alter Bridge is, IMO, a better band (despite it being the same basic band with a different singer).

Dave Mustaine leaving Metallica wasn't a bad thing, either. Turned out 2 great bands.

[DMAC]

Originally Posted by Third Eye

Alot of folks would have said there is no Metallica without Cliff Burton, if we're talking founders/songwriters.

And I do believe they were a different band once he was gone. ...AJFA was his album even though he was gone.

Then...commence suckage.

[alpha_omega]

Wow...i didn't realize they had been around for 25 years.

[talastan]

This news just killed my NFL season beginning buzz. Oh well thanks for all the inspiration and memories Mike! I'll still be a DT fan even after this but just the same as when Phil quit Genesis, this might hurt Dream Theater quite a bit. I'll be following whatever Mike continues to do no matter what. Next to Phil Collins he is the reason I play drums.

[DMAC]

Originally Posted by talastan

he is the reason I play drums.

Same here...air drums that is.