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Old 09-14-2010, 08:39 PM  
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Newest Speculation on Mankins to the Chiefs...

Well ladies and gentlemen, the worm may be turning for Logan Mankins. (Pure speculation of course. )


NFL Rumors – Would the Patriots Trade Logan Mankins?

The New England Patriots are waging a war internally against left-guard holdout Logan Mankins…and they’re winning decisively, giving rise to some NFL betting rumors about trading their Pro Bowl lineman The Patriots have always been an NFL team that gambles their own internal constitution against those of players and agents, holding the team above all else.

Tom Brady proved that the right way to get paid by Robert Kraft is to show up for work, say the right things and keep your fingers crossed.

That’s pretty much the opposite of what Mankins did. He hasn’t been seen anywhere near the Patriots except to stir the pot of his contract negotiations. Dan Connolly, who serves as the current starting left-guard next to Matt Light, did a very admirable job against the Bengals on Sunday. Brady suffered just two quarterback hits the entire game, and was protected well enough to enjoy zero sacks.

Which pretty much paints a clear picture for what the Patriots have to do with Mankins, and that’s trade him. Get his disgruntled ass out of New England and in a new uniform so both parties can move forward. So which teams are the best candidates to swing for the fences with Mankins? NFL rumors insist it’s the Cowboys, but the Chiefs are a much more logical landing spot for him.

Dallas Cowboys

The Cowboys are the obvious choice to trade for Mankins because they’re desperate. On top of that, they’ve shown a willingness to give up exactly what the Patriots will be looking for in a trade. They’ll pay Mankins while sending a second-round draft pick (or more) to give Tony Romo the type of protection he needs.

The glaring weakness for Dallas was their horrific offensive line play, which needs any help it can find in free agency. Jerry Jones has never been shy when it comes to making trades, and sending Mankins out of the division and the AFC would be seen as a smart move, especially if they can get a good draft pick in return.

New York Jets

The Jets clearly need someone better than Matt Slausen at their own left-guard spot, but they’ll have to send a boat load to make the Patriots trade Mankins in the division. Still, as the McNabb trade proved, it isn’t beyond reason for teams to trade Pro Bowlers to a big rival. The Jets have to do something to give Sanchez a fighting chance because Slausen is a huge liability on the offensive line.

Kansas City Chiefs

Pioli loves acquiring Patriots and is more than willing to give up draft picks and money to get them. With the Chiefs riding a clear wave of momentum after upsetting the Chargers on Monday Night. Brian Water hold down the fort at left-guard for the Chiefs right now, but at 33-years old the youth movement in Kansas needs someone to replace him.

Hell, he gave Matt Cassel $63 million when he came over from New England. There’s no way he’d pass up a chance to protect that investment by paying Mankins the $45 million or so that he wants.

I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve to be paid like one of the best lineman in the league. He does. It’s just that the Patriots don’t need him like they need Tom Brady which is why their wallet will stay closed as their ears remain open to NFL rumors and trade options teams like Chiefs and Cowboys float his way.

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Old 09-14-2010, 09:09 PM   #16
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They can have Thomas Jones, please.
trying not to yell here but that is just silly

getting rid of Jones so the Chiefs have to run Charles into the ground is just such a short-sighted .... breathe ... relax ...

i disagree with your stance about using Charles that much.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:09 PM   #17
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something like that

Albert,Lilja,Wiegmann,O'callaghan,Mankins

Mankins at RT would be a position most suited for all that money he is wanting too.

lilja back to LG and O'callaghan is much better with a guy outside of him.
Or keep Waters for this season and use O'Callaghan as depth.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:11 PM   #18
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Or keep Waters for this season and use O'Callaghan as depth.
oh yea ... just depends on what the trade is
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:15 PM   #19
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something like that

Albert,Lilja,Wiegmann,O'callaghan,Mankins

Mankins at RT would be a position most suited for all that money he is wanting too.

lilja back to LG and O'callaghan is much better with a guy outside of him.
What the ****?

Who in their right ****ing mind would move a two-time Pro Bowl and one time All Pro left guard to right tackle?

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What the ****?

Who in their right ****ing mind would move a two-time Pro Bowl and one time All Pro left guard to right tackle?

Herm Edwards?
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I don't even think Herm is that dumb
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oh yea ... just depends on what the trade is
Hell, maybe an upgrade on the o-line would convince the coaches/FO to put Brokie in the lineup if Cassel continues to struggle. I know, pipedream.
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Hell, maybe an upgrade on the o-line would convince the coaches/FO to put Brokie in the lineup if Cassel continues to struggle. I know, pipedream.
Nice try.Cassel is our man till he's dead or his contract expires.
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Hell, maybe an upgrade on the o-line would convince the coaches/FO to put Brokie in the lineup if Cassel continues to struggle. I know, pipedream.
I would think a better Oline would lead to a change in playcalling regardless. More passing would either make or finally break Cassel in KC which is what we need. I don't want anything undecided, by the time next year's draft comes around i want cassel to either boom or bust.
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I'm not sure which way to go on that, sir: OR
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I would think a better Oline would lead to a change in playcalling regardless. More passing would either make or finally break Cassel in KC which is what we need. I don't want anything undecided, by the time next year's draft comes around i want cassel to either boom or bust.
If they were to beef up the O line,one would hope they'd step up the attack.I wish I hadn't read this thread now.......
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I just don't see how he's a good value for this team unless you also send back one of our starting guards.

If you trade for Mankins, you better be sure that Asamoah is a bust.

If we can get 3-4 good years out of Lilja and Asamoah works out, I'm not terribly concerned with addressing the line other than drafting a center.

If we were to emerge out of the first 2 rounds of 2011 with a combination of Michael Floyd/Julio Jones/Baldwin and say Kris O'Dowd, I'd be a very happy camper.

I think Barry Richardson can get it done at RT. He just needs time at the spot, just like Berry and Lewis need time at S.
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