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Old 10-28-2010, 12:48 PM   #1
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So, you're saying the same thing everyone else said.

People bitched about the pick because he couldn't stay healthy in college, not because of a lack of talent.

But why let the facts get in the way?
In fact, I recall many complained not so much about Moeaki, but rather that there were a number of good tight ends still on the board so that we probably didn't need to trade up.

That complaint seems pretty legit now, because we can look at Aaron Hernandez who was taken in the 4th round by the Pats.
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Old 10-28-2010, 12:51 PM   #2
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In fact, I recall many complained not so much about Moeaki, but rather that there were a number of good tight ends still on the board so that we probably didn't need to trade up.

That complaint seems pretty legit now, because we can look at Aaron Hernandez who was taken in the 4th round by the Pats.
You're absolutely correct.

I don't recall anyone disputing his talent.

I do, however, recall people not being thrilled that we traded up, when we could have had him, or someone as talented with our original pick. And people were concerned that he missed something like 26 of Iowa's 52 games while he was there.

And there were people that weren't thrilled with the fact that the regime had traded up to take a TE two years running.
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Old 10-28-2010, 12:53 PM   #3
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In fact, I recall many complained not so much about Moeaki, but rather that there were a number of good tight ends still on the board so that we probably didn't need to trade up.

That complaint seems pretty legit now, because we can look at Aaron Hernandez who was taken in the 4th round by the Pats.
I complained because we didn't appear to be addressing the WR position, offensive line, or defensive line.

Then we draft a JV Gonzo who's always injured.
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Old 10-28-2010, 07:43 PM   #4
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So, you're saying the same thing everyone else said.

People bitched about the pick because he couldn't stay healthy in college, not because of a lack of talent.

But why let the facts get in the way?
This is a little revisionist. The same people that were griping about the injury, never really raved about how much talent he had.

They didn't say that he wasn't talented, but they didn't talk about how good of a talent he really was.

The reality is that he has far exceeded everyone's expectations. For where he was drafted, even if he plays 10 games a year, the pick was worth it.
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Old 10-28-2010, 07:45 PM   #5
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This is a little revisionist. The same people that were griping about the injury, never really raved about how much talent he had.

They didn't say that he wasn't talented, but they didn't talk about how good of a talent he really was.

The reality is that he has far exceeded everyone's expectations. For where he was drafted, even if he plays 10 games a year, the pick was worth it.


Folks, someone's scraping the very bottom of the barrel here.
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You dont trade multiple picks for tight ends...**** we gave up a 4th and fifth rounder for this guy FML /cp
You especially don't do it for the 17th ranked TE in the draft!
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:24 PM   #7
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You dont trade multiple picks for tight ends...**** we gave up a 4th and fifth rounder for this guy FML /cp
Remember when I told you I hoped he was as good as you said he was...
you are right on so far
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Yeah, he has been completely badass... I just pray he stays healthy. I love his contributions to the team.
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Old 10-28-2010, 12:47 PM   #13
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We moved up 9 spots to get Tony. We lost our 4th round pick to do this. That's not a huge sacrifice by any means.
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In 22 games Pioli has turned the Chiefs into one of the best teams in the NFL...

and really...there is no disputing that...name 8 teams better than the Chiefs. Name 5...

People still want to give Herm and Kurarich the credit...sure, they brought talented players to this team...no doubt...

But how much of it has been coaching by Haley and the assistants?

did DJ ever play as good as he's playing now? Hali?

Has Bowe ever been as focused?

They changed the entire culture of this team...for the better. Pioli drafted talented players this year with winning attitudes...and it's paying huge dividends.

Hamas Jenkins struck Pioli out 9,000 times last year...

So far he had a weak draft in 2009 where EVERYONE seemed to have a pretty weak draft...

and then he followed it up with what appears to be a LEGENDARY draft class...

and suddenly we're a top team in the AFC...

and if Cassel keeps improving the way he has been improving...and the confidence builds...and we start getting more from that position...

with our crowd and our homefield we can go a long way this year...

and Pioli is responsible...

and has anyone noticed how quite our drafturbators have been this year???

They know they screwed the pooch on Pioli...they gave him ZERO TIME to do anything...and now look...

Guess there was a reason he was the executive of the decade, after all...
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and has anyone noticed how quite our drafturbators have been this year???

This has been the biggest surprise....
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