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Old 09-04-2012, 07:38 AM   #1
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Did BlackBob really say that Siler is a better tackler than DJ?
DJ has never been a good tackler. He was never even scouted as a good tackler at Texas. He takes bad angles. He's gotten better but Siler is a better tackler. He's just not good in coverage and he's not a playmaker.

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Because the fans would be UBER PISSED if Pioli came out and told the truth.

That they are gonna let Dorsey walk after this season.
We aren't starting Powe because Dorsey is going to leave after this season? Is that what you are saying? So Pioli and Crennel aren't worried about winning? It's a political decision? Listen to yourself man. Is Kolb starting in Arizona? It's about winning. Poe played DE most of the time at Memphis. All they have been doing since he got here is playing him at NT. He's here to play NT. Crennel and Pioli have said it. I don't know what in the hell you are talking about? He might play DE on some packages but his main position will be NT.

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They are not wrong.
Powe was very effective in controlling the gaps and taking on the double. Poe was constantly getting stood up and directed in one on one situations. He did penetrate effectively, but when he did it was almost as a design by the offensive line as the running back, more often than not, went right into that gap leaving Poe in the backfield.
Again, Powe hardly played with the starters. It is highly unlikely that he will move ahead of Poe. At this point, Poe has more experience. If you check out Romeo's press conference last week (Monday?), you will find that Romeo was trying to get Poe one on one some of the time.

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Go back and look at Seattle's first drive of the third quarter in preseason week 3.

We got ****ing killed on the ground.

Dontari Poe got his ass massacred on two snaps in that drive. Literally pushed five yards off the ball on both snaps.

He sucks ass as a 1st and 2nd down run stopping NT right now.
I don't care what he did in the 3rd quarter. He looked good with the ones.

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Flowers is one of the best man coverage corners in the NFL. One reason we ditched Carr was because Carr was weak in man and we had to play a lot of zones. With Rout we can let Flowers play man... Height isn't that important until you're past the 50

However, i do agree with your logic that even second stringers have different skillsets and are better at some things than their starters.
You have this completely backwards. Flowers is one of the best zone corners in the NFL. Carr is one of the best cover corners. Flowers has never been a cover corner. I'm not sure how people miss this. Just watch Carr tomorrow night against Cruz and Nicks and tell me he's not a cover corner. He should have been playing LCB all the time in KC imo.

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This is wrong. Carr is better in man. Rob Ryan plays man defense. You have it backwards.
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He's not the best guy for the job. You disagree?
I don't know how any of you idiots can say Powe is the better choice when he has hardly played with the ones. In two years he has hardly played with the ones. I want him to work out and I like what I see but let's be realistic. How can you even compare the two?

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How long has DJ been a Chief? Do you guys watch him? He misses tackles like every game....


You guys are some serious homers. Probably the worst I have ever seen. Can't admit DJ is a sucky tackler or Carr is a better cover corner? Acting like Poe is our biggest weakness? You need to think about things and understand this isn't Madden.
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Old 09-04-2012, 07:45 AM   #2
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You guys are some serious homers. Probably the worst I have ever seen. Can't admit DJ is a sucky tackler or Carr is a better cover corner? Acting like Poe is our biggest weakness? You need to think about things and understand this isn't Madden.
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Old 09-04-2012, 07:49 AM   #3
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How long has DJ been a Chief? Do you guys watch him? He misses tackles like every game....


You guys are some serious homers. Probably the worst I have ever seen. Can't admit DJ is a sucky tackler or Carr is a better cover corner? Acting like Poe is our biggest weakness? You need to think about things and understand this isn't Madden.
you're the most hilarious homer on this board...the shit you say

and siler is not a better tackler than DJ...he's not a better anything than the probowler who set a franchise record for tackles with 179 (even though most stats only credit him with a measly 131)
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Old 09-04-2012, 07:51 AM   #4
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You guys are some serious homers. Probably the worst I have ever seen. Can't admit DJ is a sucky tackler or Carr is a better cover corner? Acting like Poe is our biggest weakness? You need to think about things and understand this isn't Madden.
Don't believe Jamaal Charles isn't as quick as Dexter McCluster? You're a homer.

Don't believe DJ is an iffy tackler? You're a homer.

Don't have Down's Syndrome? You're a homer

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Old 09-04-2012, 08:03 PM   #5
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You guys are some serious homers. Probably the worst I have ever seen. Can't admit DJ is a sucky tackler or Carr is a better cover corner? Acting like Poe is our biggest weakness? You need to think about things and understand this isn't Madden.
You did predict us to be 5-0 correct? How can you possibly call somebody else a homer?
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:47 AM   #6
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Siler is a better tackler than DJ.
C'mon man.
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:09 AM   #7
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Siler is a better tackler than DJ. .



there aren't many ILB's in the NFL that are better than DJ, let alone Brandon ****ing Siler.
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Someone tell me again why Poe is starting over Powe, when he has yet to demonstrate he has adequate knowledge of the gaps on 1st and 2nd down.
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Someone tell me again why Poe is starting over Powe, when he has yet to demonstrate he has adequate knowledge of the gaps on 1st and 2nd down.
Politics.

IMO Powe should have been the starter all offseason.
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:22 PM   #10
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Politics.

IMO Powe should have been the starter all offseason.
There is a misunderstanding about Powe. I love the guy and I want him to be great. The truth is that he has hardly played any snaps with the starters. He probably had five snaps with the one's in preseason. He was very disruptive on two of those snaps but, again, he hardly played. I hope he's in the rotation but, Poe has shown more. It's got nothing to do with politics. Poe was at the bottom of the list a couple of weeks ago. There was even a article in the Star about him being at the bottom. It really started clicking over the past couple of weeks with him.
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:24 PM   #11
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There is a misunderstanding about Powe. I love the guy and I want him to be great. The truth is that he has hardly played any snaps with the starters. He probably had five snaps with the one's in preseason. He was very disruptive on two of those snaps but, again, he hardly played. I hope he's in the rotation but, Poe has shown more. It's got nothing to do with politics. Poe was at the bottom of the list a couple of weeks ago. There was even a article in the Star about him being at the bottom. It really started clicking over the past couple of weeks with him.


poe looks like a guy that can be an effective guy aas a nickel rusher, but hasnt got a clue about maintaining his own gap to help solidify the run defense.

Powe does.
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poe looks like a guy that can be an effective guy aas a nickel rusher, but hasnt got a clue about maintaining his own gap to help solidify the run defense.

Powe does.
Pretty much this.

I don't think Poe ever was our NT of the future. He'd slide over there on 3rd down but that's about it. We need a Powe or a Toribio on 1st and 2nd down. Once Poe really learns gap discipline, he'll be best used at 5 tech.
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poe looks like a guy that can be an effective guy aas a nickel rusher, but hasnt got a clue about maintaining his own gap to help solidify the run defense.

Powe does.
Powe is third string under a coach who probably know more about NTs than anyone else in the league. From what I saw, Poe was fine in run defense. Seattle could only run with their QB and he played most of the first half. Note that Toriibido went out after the first series. Green Bay ran 16 times for 33 yards in the entire game and Poe played the first half. He started that game.

I'm sorry but I think you are wrong. Hopefully Powe can keep moving up the chart and I do see him getting better but, Poe is doing a good job.
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