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Old 11-04-2012, 03:35 PM   #1
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Pioli is like the abusive boyfriend who beats the shit out of the girlfriend behind closed doors, but presents so well to the outside world that you could never believe he's that much of an asshole.

The people that work in that building fear him. He rules with fear and is a far bigger piece of shit than anyone could imagine.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:35 PM   #2
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Marty's Staff > Belicheck's staff.

The only difference is that one of those guys up top has a super bowl title.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:36 PM   #3
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:39 PM   #4
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It really shows how FOS that tree is.

Let's build a blue collar team with a mediocre QB and be assholes and try to win!

Had the Browns stayed put they never would have won crap, barring Tom Brady being drafted.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:44 PM   #5
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Had the Browns stayed put they never would have won crap, barring Tom Brady being drafted.
The Cleveland people are absolutely convinced that they would have won a championship. In '96, Baltimore took Jonathan Ogden and Ray Lewis in the first. Four years later - champs.

Not saying it would have happened, but it would have been interesting to watch.


And I can't say this enough - this is not a Belichick fluff piece (by me, anyway). I was just impressed to see all the familiar faces Bill had on his staff in Cleveland. Guess I didn't have a full view of BB's "tree".

The real story is about Cleveland watching their team leave, pretty much out of the blue. That was the part that fascinated me the most.
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:04 PM   #6
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The Cleveland people are absolutely convinced that they would have won a championship. In '96, Baltimore took Jonathan Ogden and Ray Lewis in the first. Four years later - champs.
But they weren't coached by Belichick. Nor was he calling the shots in that draft.

He probably would have taken a 5-tech.
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:04 PM   #7
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The Cleveland people are absolutely convinced that they would have won a championship. In '96, Baltimore took Jonathan Ogden and Ray Lewis in the first. Four years later - champs.

Not saying it would have happened, but it would have been interesting to watch.


And I can't say this enough - this is not a Belichick fluff piece (by me, anyway). I was just impressed to see all the familiar faces Bill had on his staff in Cleveland. Guess I didn't have a full view of BB's "tree".

The real story is about Cleveland watching their team leave, pretty much out of the blue. That was the part that fascinated me the most.
Seems Modell was looking for a big payday and Baltimore backed up the Brinks truck.
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:11 PM   #8
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The Cleveland people are absolutely convinced that they would have won a championship. In '96, Baltimore took Jonathan Ogden and Ray Lewis in the first. Four years later - champs.
they were champs four years later not because of Belicheck and his shitter pals but because of these drafts POST-belicheck:

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ray lewis

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kim herring

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duane starks

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brandon stokley

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Old 11-04-2012, 04:22 PM   #9
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they were champs four years later not because of Belicheck and his shitter pals but because of these drafts POST-belicheck:

96
ogden
ray lewis

97
boulware
jamie sharper
kim herring

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duane starks

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chris mccailister
brandon stokley

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jamal lewis
adalius thomas
Yea that, and it was a weird year. The mid to late 90s there were almost no franchise QBs drafted, or they busted big time.

94-97 in particular were overall horrible drafts for QBs. Marino, Aikman, Young and Elway all retired, Manning and McNabb were still a year away from seriously being a threat ........Favres Packers mired in mediocrity for a few years once Holmgren left, Bledsoe was starting to suck....it was like a perfect storm for A defensive team to win it all.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:47 PM   #10
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The Browns' transformation into the Ravens changed forever how I watch and how much I care about the game. I still enjoy NFL football, but I recognize that the professional football entertainment industry has nothing to do with me and the team is in no way mine. Calling a team the "Denver" Broncos or the "Kansas City" Chiefs is nothing but smart marketing. We wouldn't pay nearly as much attention or money if the Hunt Chiefs played the Bowlen Broncos twice a year.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:56 PM   #11
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The Browns' transformation into the Ravens changed forever how I watch and how much I care about the game. I still enjoy NFL football, but I recognize that the professional football entertainment industry has nothing to do with me and the team is in no way mine. Calling a team the "Denver" Broncos or the "Kansas City" Chiefs is nothing but smart marketing. We wouldn't pay nearly as much attention or money if the Hunt Chiefs played the Bowlen Broncos twice a year.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:58 PM   #12
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That's the cool thing. It's no longer emotional at all for me. It's strictly financial.

That came in handy when I was asked to vote for a new stadium for the Broncos. I voted against it. Move the Broncos to L.A. I'll watch football no matter what city they pretend to represent.
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:05 PM   #13
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That's the cool thing. It's no longer emotional at all for me. It's strictly financial.

That came in handy when I was asked to vote for a new stadium for the Broncos. I voted against it. Move the Broncos to L.A. I'll watch football no matter what city they pretend to represent.
Life is sad sometimes.
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:09 PM   #14
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Life is sad sometimes.
Only if you care about the Kansas City Chiefs.

Also if you have to pay the extra sales tax for the stadium. That sucks.
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