It's been a long time coming. Adiós.

[OnTheWarpath15]

It's time for me to bow out. It's been almost 10 years, and I'm tired.

Tired of the false narratives. Tired of people arguing the poster instead of the post. Tired of discussing football with people who favor excuses over evidence. Tired of wasting time talking about an organization that hasn't won a playoff game in the lifetime of a college senior. Tired of watching other great posters leaving entirely or posting less, weakening the Football IQ this place was known for 5-10 years ago.

I know posting a thread instead of just walking away will open the door for many to take their cheap shots - we all know who they are - and if you don't, just wait. They'll show themselves. Those of you that know me privately know this has been building for a long time.

With all that said, I'll say what I've always said: This team has talent, but will continually fall short as long as they keep thinking you can win in the postseason consistently with average QB play. You don't put enough pressure on the opposing defense, and it puts too much pressure on your defense - if they don't have a near-perfect day, you lose.

Peters and Conley were great picks and should make an impact in the years to come. Should be fun to watch. (What? According to some, I NEVER say anything positive - just another false narrative) While I doubt he'll get his shot, I'd like to see if Murray can be that franchise guy, or if he fell for reasons other than what people here assume - namely, his height and injury history. Hopefully they get Houston signed long-term, because if they don't they are in deep, deep shit. The defense tends to carry this team, and Houston is the most important cog in said defense.

I've made a lot of great friends here that are still friends to this day, and will continue to be. This place was awesome when it was more community based - when there would be gatherings, tailgates, etc. Now, it's littered with trolls that take advantage of the anonymity of the internet and would never show their face in public. That attitude has weakened this place considerably, IMHO.

For those of you I call a friend, we'll be in touch. If anyone that isn't already a friend privately or on Facebook/Twitter wants to continue to keep in touch, I'll keep my PM's open for a week or so.

Thanks, Kyle. It was fun for a while. Queue the "well, bye/sour grapes" posts in 3...2...1.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Lest you forget the Matt Cassel defenders?

After his first two seasons in KC, things looked like they might be improving. He played well that year, the team improved 6 games over the year before, made the postseason. Coming off the Herm and Romeo years things were looking much improved. It wasn't crazy to be optimistic about the team at that time.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

You left out one of the constraints: the complete mind-**** that Jim Harbaugh put on him.

In any case, he's not a victim. They've been trying to coach him to be more aggressive for three years (according to Reid).

(And by 'three years' I mean three offseasons. I realize he's only played two seasons here, but we're in year three).

If you look at Alex Smith's career objectively, the story is pretty easy to discern.

He came into the league and played for a moribund franchise. He had a shoulder injury that lingered. Then he had the shoulder corrected surgically, took a year off, came back fixed. At the same time, the team cleaned house and got the right people in. His career flourished.

Then he came to KC, which at the time was pretty much back where he started.

The obvious conclusion is that he isn't an all time great but if you build a good team around him, he'll consistently win games.

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I've never seen a dead horse beaten quite this much. I eagerly await the day of having a really shitty or really good QB so this topic can be taken off the table and we have a somewhat unified CP.

Cassel talk was bad, but he turned heel too quickly. I think by the end of this season, Smith will finally fall pretty clearly on one side of the line or the other. It will either be only the most homerish defenders arguing or his most ardent haters. No way to walk this line for another entire year.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Cassel talk was bad, but he turned heel too quickly. I think by the end of this season, Smith will finally fall pretty clearly on one side of the line or the other. It will either be only the most homerish defenders arguing or his most ardent haters. No way to walk this line for another entire year.

I think most any reasonable person would agree with that. We should see the offense improve markedly with the infusion of talent on the offensive line. I would expect to see something close to the 49ers Alex Smith. If not, that's a problem.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by -King-

I included his 42 rushing yards dude.

And I wasn't talking about those, either

Like LeBron and Kobe, I look forward to you pretending your stance on Wilson never existed in 3 years from now

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Cochise

if you build a good team around him, he'll consistently win games.

10-12 in his last 22

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

10-12 in his last 22

Compared to 0-177,035

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Compared to 0-177,035

I don't know, man ... He had that one 20 post streak back in '09 where he was only half a dipshit

[Hammock Parties]

if you build a good forum around him, he'll consistently troll n00bs

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Turned into an Alex Smith thread... that's ****ing awesome.

A perfect fit considering the the op.

Wasnt this the logical conclusion all along?

[Hootie]

I used to like clay as a poster but the trolling is tired, lame and old. He's actually one of my least 5 favorites now. He's a good guy though

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The model the Chiefs have right now is one that can win a championship; the problem is that the window to win it isn't going to be open for long.

It takes a QB to keep that window open for a decade or more.

Finally some sanity.

Alex is no ones Dreamboat, no 10 year stalwart...

But to deny this overall roster is to be Goddamn FOOL.

[58-4ever]

It's sad to see another good September 2005 guy go. Simply Red, FAX and you...

If I'm being honest though, you probably just burned yourself out. While I appreciate your candid nature and well thought out responses, you were also kind of a dick. Your opinion was always right and you think you're smarter than everyone else. Enjoy the antifreeze.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I used to like clay as a poster but the trolling is tired, lame and old. He's actually one of my least 5 favorites now. He's a good guy though

Absolutely.

I have no problem with you or Clay as people.

Someday, you and I will go out an tear it up, shot for shot, drink for drink, beer for beer, eat a giant breakfast and Uber it back to base.

I'd be more than happy to buy Clay a Jamba Juice and a lap dance, too.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

And I wasn't talking about those, either

Like LeBron and Kobe, I look forward to you pretending your stance on Wilson never existed in 3 years from now

Oh you like QBR right?

How about the fact that he had a 53 QB that post season? His first two games he had a 25.9 and 38.9 QBR.

But yeah, greatness.


And what do you mean I pretend my stance never existed on Lebron and Kobe? When did I ever do that? 3 years ago I thought Kobe was better than LeBron. Now I think the opposite. Sports opinions on active players can't change after 3 years?