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Old 06-22-2005, 08:40 AM  
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Sampson in the lead for the RT position.
Vermeil was on 810 this morning talking about some stuff most of us already know..

Key Fox is ready to be a starter (whether he will be or not is yet to be determined)

Fredex is a talented reciever and good in traffic (per Vermeil)

Going to bring in some CB vets to try to shore things up.. Vermeil sounds like he isnt' comfortable with the current situation at CB

Waters is out of shape but Vermeil trusts that he will get back in shape.

But the eye opener to me was that he said Sampson would probably be the opening day RT... I was under the impression that it was Blacks job to lose.. but I guess Sampson is really looking good.
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:23 AM   #31
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I'm thinking we could see a lot of 3-4 and I have mixed feelings. I think we have the linebackers for it, but I don't think we have the ends for the 3-4. We could move Browning to end, but would Hicks be effective? I doubt it. Allen and Hall, IMO, are too small to play the 3-4.
I agree. We don't have anything close to the D-line we need for a 3-4.
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:25 AM   #32
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I think occasionally switching to the 3-4 would be advantagous for the defense.. we have the horses at LB to do it on obvious passing downs..

Siavii in the middle... flanked by Dalton and Browning would probably be best for a 3-4 allignment
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:28 AM   #33
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On Sampson, Black is going to be our LT when Roaf is gone. I think they're content with letting him be backup until then.

On the LB situation, I'm in 100% agreement with jspchief. Somebody said we should keep Bell at his natural position.

His "natural" NFL position is ILB in a 3-4, and since we play a 4-3, he has no natural position in our defense. In college, Bell played middle linebacker and Georgia runs a 4-3. He's better suited for the inside. The guy CAN rush the passer, but he's a tackling MACHINE. We need him inside.

Put DJ at SSLB and Fox at WSLB and we have not only the best Chiefs' unit we can possibly field, but a unit that can play with any in the AFC West.
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:29 AM   #34
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I think occasionally switching to the 3-4 would be advantagous for the defense.. we have the horses at LB to do it on obvious passing downs..

Siavii in the middle... flanked by Dalton and Browning would probably be best for a 3-4 allignment
The NG/NT position is the most important in 3-4 and I don't like the idea of Sims or Siavii having the assignment. Either of them would have to drastically improve to be effective.
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:30 AM   #35
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Put DJ at SSLB and Fox at WSLB and we have not only the best Chiefs' unit we can possibly field, but a unit that can play with any in the AFC West.
We also have an extremely FAST/QUICK LB corps... something we've sorely lacked.
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:33 AM   #36
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Let's see what Key Fox looks like in pads before we start penciling him in as a starter. Shorts and T's doesn't say a whole lot.
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:33 AM   #37
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The NG/NT position is the most important in 3-4 and I don't like the idea of Sims or Siavii having the assignment. Either of them would have to drastically improve to be effective.

I agree that either would have to get better.. but in the 3-4 you need a big body in the middle there and Siavii is definitely that.. and strong.. so he could at least hold his position.
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:34 AM   #38
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I might be missing something.. but on Bell... why are they so adamant against moving him to the middle if he would be such a great fit there?
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:36 AM   #39
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His natural position? OLB isn't his natural position. ILB in a 3-4 is.
I believe that I read an interview with Gun awhile back that said that Bell played the ILB in the 3-4 that was similar to one of the OLBs in a 4-3. It was not the ILB position that acts as the MLB. Therefore, Bell is not experienced at MLB. Could he learn it? Maybe. But I would much rather stick with a guy that has played in the position and/or is showing much improvement at it. Playing Bell at MLB may possibly work. Then again, it could turn into a big disaster.
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:37 AM   #40
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On Sampson, Black is going to be our LT when Roaf is gone. I think they're content with letting him be backup until then.
I think the fact that Black played as well as he did whenhe got into the game last season, added to the fact that Sampson has shown enough to be penciled in as the RT to start the season is a pretty good indication that we still have a lot of young talent and depth on the O-Line, which bodes well for the future of this offense.



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On the LB situation, I'm in 100% agreement with jspchief. Somebody said we should keep Bell at his natural position.

His "natural" NFL position is ILB in a 3-4, and since we play a 4-3, he has no natural position in our defense. In college, Bell played middle linebacker and Georgia runs a 4-3. He's better suited for the inside. The guy CAN rush the passer, but he's a tackling MACHINE. We need him inside.

Put DJ at SSLB and Fox at WSLB and we have not only the best Chiefs' unit we can possibly field, but a unit that can play with any in the AFC West.
If Gun were true to his word, and these are our 3 best LBs, then this would be the line up on opening day.

But I also know that Gun is pretty stubborn, and he just loves the idea of Bell on the outside, so we won't se it happen.
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In college, Bell played middle linebacker and Georgia runs a 4-3. He's better suited for the inside. The guy CAN rush the passer, but he's a tackling MACHINE. We need him inside.
He played MLB at Georgia? I didn't realize that. Are you positive about that? If that's the case, I don't know why they don't want to play him in the middle.
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Opening day starters will be Kendrell Bell, Kawika Mitchell, and Derrick Johnson IMHO. I'm fine with that as long as Mitchell has a productive TC.

I too thought Bell fit better at MLB. He played his entire college career at MLB in a 4-3 scheme. I thought a LB trio of Derrick Johnson, Kendrell Bell, and Scott Fujita would be good. However, it doesn't look like Fujita will get the chance to start.
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He played MLB at Georgia? I didn't realize that. Are you positive about that? If that's the case, I don't know why they don't want to play him in the middle.
Yep.
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Just reflecting for a sec.. but how freaking cool is it that we can actually have a heated discussion about this defense that didnt' center around guy x sux more than guy z
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For everybody that asked "He played MLB in collge? Then why are they so intent on playing him outside?" read carefully what SideWinder posted.

We've seen Gunther before. We KNOW Gunther. He's like a ****ing schoolgirl when it comes to thinking about Bell being the next Derrick Thomas. He can't make himself not want it. Why?

Because deep down, Bell reminds him of ANTHONY DAVIS. Anybody remember him? The guy NEVER had more than 4.5 sacks in a season. But he recovered fumbles, picked off passes, and made big plays when the counted. THAT is what Bell is. That is what Bell was in college, where he finished with more passes defensed than sacks.
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